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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Hans Westermann</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Westermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 08:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stoped watching SBS when they introduced in-program advertising. Why not have the ads in one block or as alone standing programs? Some people like the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stoped watching SBS when they introduced in-program advertising. Why not have the ads in one block or as alone standing programs? Some people like the ads.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Andrew</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 14:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only watch on-line now. I&#039;ll get a digital TV when SBS takes the ads out of their programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only watch on-line now. I&#8217;ll get a digital TV when SBS takes the ads out of their programs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Jano</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 01:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBS is not as diverse as it used to be. When I came here 15 years ago I loved SBS but it has now changed for the worse. Since they put ads in program it has become less relevant to me. They give lip service to their charter but I still listen to radio. I do not have a recorder for TV and that is not the answer anyway. I have watched programs that were recorded though at friends houses and it is still a disruption to fast forward past the advertisements. The point is SBS should not be allowed to interrupt programs. I always hear in the news that SBS is lowly funded but it has become a selfish corporate body, like it has a chip on its shoulder and with nothing to show. Dumbed down programs, mostly in English and often monocultural, hell bent on trying to attract advertisers but still poor. It seems the powers that be within SBS just do not get it. Bring back the people of 20 years ago who at least understood the purpose of SBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBS is not as diverse as it used to be. When I came here 15 years ago I loved SBS but it has now changed for the worse. Since they put ads in program it has become less relevant to me. They give lip service to their charter but I still listen to radio. I do not have a recorder for TV and that is not the answer anyway. I have watched programs that were recorded though at friends houses and it is still a disruption to fast forward past the advertisements. The point is SBS should not be allowed to interrupt programs. I always hear in the news that SBS is lowly funded but it has become a selfish corporate body, like it has a chip on its shoulder and with nothing to show. Dumbed down programs, mostly in English and often monocultural, hell bent on trying to attract advertisers but still poor. It seems the powers that be within SBS just do not get it. Bring back the people of 20 years ago who at least understood the purpose of SBS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Antoinette J</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoinette J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 01:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t afford a recording machine and even if I could, it is wrong to say ‘problem solved’. As long as all you recording buffs are happy to just sit back and record away, you miss the point. Of course I mute the sound but it is still a distraction and an interruption to do so. The S.B.S. should not be interrupting our programs period. No ifs buts or maybes. For years the S.B.S. ran its finances in a much leaner state than now I imagine and did the right thing by not advertising in any programs. To say ‘lets just record’ you deny enjoyment to people like myself who cannot afford, and will never be able to afford a recording machine. In doing this you let the S.B.S. get away scott free of its obligations. Don&#039;t settle for recording a program as an answer. It’s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t afford a recording machine and even if I could, it is wrong to say ‘problem solved’. As long as all you recording buffs are happy to just sit back and record away, you miss the point. Of course I mute the sound but it is still a distraction and an interruption to do so. The S.B.S. should not be interrupting our programs period. No ifs buts or maybes. For years the S.B.S. ran its finances in a much leaner state than now I imagine and did the right thing by not advertising in any programs. To say ‘lets just record’ you deny enjoyment to people like myself who cannot afford, and will never be able to afford a recording machine. In doing this you let the S.B.S. get away scott free of its obligations. Don&#8217;t settle for recording a program as an answer. It’s not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by David</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that as advertising content increases so will the tendency to record rather than watch programmes live. With consequent fast forwarding through or editing out of ads is there any point to advertising. However while government funding remains low SBS is likely to want to retain the advertising income and not point out such a weakness. Also, for that reason SBS, would probably be reluctant to research the extent of recording against live viewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that as advertising content increases so will the tendency to record rather than watch programmes live. With consequent fast forwarding through or editing out of ads is there any point to advertising. However while government funding remains low SBS is likely to want to retain the advertising income and not point out such a weakness. Also, for that reason SBS, would probably be reluctant to research the extent of recording against live viewing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by JKW</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>JKW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 05:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Free to Air&quot; has become a misnomer. Is it now a case of &quot;He who pays the piper calls the tune&quot;? Limited self-promotional advertising at beginning and end of programmes is just bearable. Commercial advertising every fifteen minutes is intrusive, banal and so repetitive that one quickly tunes out and/or mutes the sound. SBS2 now seems aimed at a narrower demographic - and I no longer fit! (I wonder if it has attracted more viewers in any demographic?) SBS1 has not lifted its game to include the more interesting and stimulating programmes, which used to be on SBS2. Hence, my SBS viewing has markedly declined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Free to Air&#8221; has become a misnomer. Is it now a case of &#8220;He who pays the piper calls the tune&#8221;? Limited self-promotional advertising at beginning and end of programmes is just bearable. Commercial advertising every fifteen minutes is intrusive, banal and so repetitive that one quickly tunes out and/or mutes the sound. SBS2 now seems aimed at a narrower demographic &#8211; and I no longer fit! (I wonder if it has attracted more viewers in any demographic?) SBS1 has not lifted its game to include the more interesting and stimulating programmes, which used to be on SBS2. Hence, my SBS viewing has markedly declined.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by John</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 01:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Phil - record the programs and watch later fast forwarding through the ads. There seems to be more ads in each ad break now, or is that just my sensitivity rising? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Phil &#8211; record the programs and watch later fast forwarding through the ads. There seems to be more ads in each ad break now, or is that just my sensitivity rising? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by John</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 01:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can put up with the ads between programs, almost like ABC does with its own self promos between programs. It seems we are doing more recording of SBS programs and watching later and fast forwarding through the ads. Thanks for the detail on the budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can put up with the ads between programs, almost like ABC does with its own self promos between programs. It seems we are doing more recording of SBS programs and watching later and fast forwarding through the ads. Thanks for the detail on the budget.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Fabrizio Casotti</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabrizio Casotti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 23:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the days of the VHS cassette video recorder I refused to watch the commercial television channels, because they were relentlessly bombarding us with ridiculous advertisements every ten minutes. When I am watching a TV programme I do not want an advertisement to suddenly, and rudely interrupt my enjoyment of the TV programme. I do not want to be told about funeral insurance, dog food, or yet another new car on the market. I did however, watch an occasional movie, but they were pre recorded onto a VHS video cassette tape so I could fast forward at high speed through the advertising garbage. These days all my TV programmes are automatically pre recorded, so that I can watch them at a convenient time, and so that I can fast forward through the advertising intrusions. I should not have to do that, because the Federal Government should be fully funding both of its broadcasters, the S.B.S.  and the A.B.C. I am sending a copy of this comment to the Australian Association of National Advertisers, so that those advertisers can see that we do not want their advertising on our S.B.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the days of the VHS cassette video recorder I refused to watch the commercial television channels, because they were relentlessly bombarding us with ridiculous advertisements every ten minutes. When I am watching a TV programme I do not want an advertisement to suddenly, and rudely interrupt my enjoyment of the TV programme. I do not want to be told about funeral insurance, dog food, or yet another new car on the market. I did however, watch an occasional movie, but they were pre recorded onto a VHS video cassette tape so I could fast forward at high speed through the advertising garbage. These days all my TV programmes are automatically pre recorded, so that I can watch them at a convenient time, and so that I can fast forward through the advertising intrusions. I should not have to do that, because the Federal Government should be fully funding both of its broadcasters, the S.B.S.  and the A.B.C. I am sending a copy of this comment to the Australian Association of National Advertisers, so that those advertisers can see that we do not want their advertising on our S.B.S.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Ian SPENCE</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian SPENCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with ROBERT COPE - if I could only have one channel, I would choose SBS. UNDOUBTEDLY. I watch it far more than I watch the other channels, and generally find the programs much more interesting, though there has been a move towards dummer programs in recent times, which I deplore. But I NEVER watch SBS live (thanks to the advertising). I ALWAYS record it and slip through the ads. Not perfect, but the next best thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with ROBERT COPE &#8211; if I could only have one channel, I would choose SBS. UNDOUBTEDLY. I watch it far more than I watch the other channels, and generally find the programs much more interesting, though there has been a move towards dummer programs in recent times, which I deplore. But I NEVER watch SBS live (thanks to the advertising). I ALWAYS record it and slip through the ads. Not perfect, but the next best thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Jonathan Silberberg</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Silberberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 11:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ads during the program are annoying, but not a serious limitation. I&#039;m far more concerned at the implications for programming when advertising dollars are alongside . . . 

Will the viewing demographic be seen as consumers or customers, 10 years from now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ads during the program are annoying, but not a serious limitation. I&#8217;m far more concerned at the implications for programming when advertising dollars are alongside . . . </p>
<p>Will the viewing demographic be seen as consumers or customers, 10 years from now?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Eva Cermak</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva Cermak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 07:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to dumbing down, reducing foreign language content, advertisements - often of the most screeching sort, we are annoyed by the frequent inane comments by one of the news presenters,  so we too now hardly ever watch SBS, once our primary TV channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to dumbing down, reducing foreign language content, advertisements &#8211; often of the most screeching sort, we are annoyed by the frequent inane comments by one of the news presenters,  so we too now hardly ever watch SBS, once our primary TV channel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Rodney Lynch</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In his comment above Murray Scott said, &quot;What’s more, tell SBS and ABC what you are doing so they (and the SBS advertisers) understand that ads are not worth showing or paying for&quot;.  I have been doing this for a while now, and I have sent to the ABC a copy of my previous comment  which appeared on this site on Friday, 17 May, 2013 at 15:07. We need to keep the pressure on the S.B.S. and the A.B.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his comment above Murray Scott said, &#8220;What’s more, tell SBS and ABC what you are doing so they (and the SBS advertisers) understand that ads are not worth showing or paying for&#8221;.  I have been doing this for a while now, and I have sent to the ABC a copy of my previous comment  which appeared on this site on Friday, 17 May, 2013 at 15:07. We need to keep the pressure on the S.B.S. and the A.B.C.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Joan Coxsedge</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Coxsedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Conroy think he can get away with treating people like idiots. Surely he must know he&#039;ll be sprung. When ads were introduced, it was a downhill run. Once upon a time, SBS gave us diversity and quality programmes, whereas today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Conroy think he can get away with treating people like idiots. Surely he must know he&#8217;ll be sprung. When ads were introduced, it was a downhill run. Once upon a time, SBS gave us diversity and quality programmes, whereas today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Colin Jones</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 05:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is mind numbing even to watch SBS on Demand as not only are the commercials badly placed - right in the middle of dialogue in some instances - but they are usually the same. I go into a hypnotic trance, turn down the sound and wait patiently. As for home television I just tape shows and fast forward the commercials. Never ever watch commercial television unless on the very, very rare occasion they come up with some intelligently put together product. 

I remember when I spent some time in the U.K. between 1969-84 commercials were always preceded by an asterisk with the break ending the same way.

Australian commercial television is the absolute pits and it is a pity SBS is going in that direction too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is mind numbing even to watch SBS on Demand as not only are the commercials badly placed &#8211; right in the middle of dialogue in some instances &#8211; but they are usually the same. I go into a hypnotic trance, turn down the sound and wait patiently. As for home television I just tape shows and fast forward the commercials. Never ever watch commercial television unless on the very, very rare occasion they come up with some intelligently put together product. </p>
<p>I remember when I spent some time in the U.K. between 1969-84 commercials were always preceded by an asterisk with the break ending the same way.</p>
<p>Australian commercial television is the absolute pits and it is a pity SBS is going in that direction too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Maurice Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 05:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising will increase and program quality will decline until the viewers are allowed to elect the Board. Some hope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising will increase and program quality will decline until the viewers are allowed to elect the Board. Some hope!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Maurice Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising has ruined SBS in two ways, by dumbing-down the content and disrupting the viewing. With the decline of the ABC, I had become more dependent on SBS 2; now it is unwatchable. Off to the library instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising has ruined SBS in two ways, by dumbing-down the content and disrupting the viewing. With the decline of the ABC, I had become more dependent on SBS 2; now it is unwatchable. Off to the library instead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Arthur Mooney</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 00:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both the SBS and the ABC follow the Party line of the two right wing Parties which take turns in governing the country. Neither the Liberals or Labor are prepared to get rid of commercial advertising, because their friends in big business do not want them to do that. We, the users of the ABC, , and S.B.S.  services, have to keep putting pressure on them. 

Although the ABC denies it, I do believe that its interruption to programmes with self promotions are designed to soften us up for the day when it also dumps commercial advertising onto us. That will be done with the assistance of  its friends in Parliament who will make the necessary change to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation Act. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the SBS and the ABC follow the Party line of the two right wing Parties which take turns in governing the country. Neither the Liberals or Labor are prepared to get rid of commercial advertising, because their friends in big business do not want them to do that. We, the users of the ABC, , and S.B.S.  services, have to keep putting pressure on them. </p>
<p>Although the ABC denies it, I do believe that its interruption to programmes with self promotions are designed to soften us up for the day when it also dumps commercial advertising onto us. That will be done with the assistance of  its friends in Parliament who will make the necessary change to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation Act.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Robert Cope</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Cope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve frequently said, &quot;If I had to only watch one TV channel, it would be SBS.&quot; I&#039;m pleased to see this interest in properly curating this valued resource. Thus, I applaud the many helpful opinions. Yes, Board, pay attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve frequently said, &#8220;If I had to only watch one TV channel, it would be SBS.&#8221; I&#8217;m pleased to see this interest in properly curating this valued resource. Thus, I applaud the many helpful opinions. Yes, Board, pay attention.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Silvio</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Silvio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 11:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the current climate of dumming down audiences, the last bastions of hope were the ABC and SBS. These channels are the only ones people with discerning taste can watch. The commercials channels became torture devices who now are only supported by the converted to mediocrity masses who are completely converted and possibly beyond salvation. The SBS board don&#039;t realise we live in a entertainment world with incredible choice which is off course provided by the Internet. If they turn the SBS into a commercial channel, they will only turn away the ONLY people who kept it AND their jobs alive. All of us who currently support SBS will go online and their tv station will most likely go into the history books because the people who watch the commercial channels will never turn to SBS no matter how commercial you become, as most say, they don&#039;t watch SBS because they don&#039;t know how to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the current climate of dumming down audiences, the last bastions of hope were the ABC and SBS. These channels are the only ones people with discerning taste can watch. The commercials channels became torture devices who now are only supported by the converted to mediocrity masses who are completely converted and possibly beyond salvation. The SBS board don&#8217;t realise we live in a entertainment world with incredible choice which is off course provided by the Internet. If they turn the SBS into a commercial channel, they will only turn away the ONLY people who kept it AND their jobs alive. All of us who currently support SBS will go online and their tv station will most likely go into the history books because the people who watch the commercial channels will never turn to SBS no matter how commercial you become, as most say, they don&#8217;t watch SBS because they don&#8217;t know how to read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Robert castles</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert castles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 10:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the stations are taking advantage of the digital format. Subs foreign language film subtitles should be separate and selectable. I have almost given up watching sbs , it&#039;s now just like 7 or 9. The fibre optic will soon be at my place enabling me to give up FTA tv. 

Get rid of the board and elect a new one. If there is no money ask for viewer donations. I can put up with 5 mins of suitable adds between program&#039;s if they are informative and low pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the stations are taking advantage of the digital format. Subs foreign language film subtitles should be separate and selectable. I have almost given up watching sbs , it&#8217;s now just like 7 or 9. The fibre optic will soon be at my place enabling me to give up FTA tv. </p>
<p>Get rid of the board and elect a new one. If there is no money ask for viewer donations. I can put up with 5 mins of suitable adds between program&#8217;s if they are informative and low pressure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by John Tate</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 10:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry SBS but you have lost a viewer due to the ads.

Given the lack of funds, close down SBS and transfer funds to an ABC channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry SBS but you have lost a viewer due to the ads.</p>
<p>Given the lack of funds, close down SBS and transfer funds to an ABC channel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Bruce Grime</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Grime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 08:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the article was spot on, but you can hardly blame the managing director for saying things in agreement with the minister.  after all the minister is ultimately his boss, so he has to say in public what his boss wants him to say.  the SBS board is another matter.  their job is to stick up for the SBS and all that it stands for, so they should be more proactive in getting rid of the ads in the programmes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the article was spot on, but you can hardly blame the managing director for saying things in agreement with the minister.  after all the minister is ultimately his boss, so he has to say in public what his boss wants him to say.  the SBS board is another matter.  their job is to stick up for the SBS and all that it stands for, so they should be more proactive in getting rid of the ads in the programmes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Anne Kotzman</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Kotzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 07:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no way I would buy anything I see advertised on SBS. Most of the time I don&#039;t even look at the ads because I am so annoyed at the disruption of the program. I turn on the mute button or switch off the TV and go and read a book instead. Advertising on SBS is a menace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way I would buy anything I see advertised on SBS. Most of the time I don&#8217;t even look at the ads because I am so annoyed at the disruption of the program. I turn on the mute button or switch off the TV and go and read a book instead. Advertising on SBS is a menace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Anne Kotzman</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Kotzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 07:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too  mute the TV when SBS or ABC run ads DURING programs and I do something else to ignore the ad content.
All my friends do same, so advertisers should realise they are wasting their money. Often it is so annoying that I switch channel or turn off altogether. The Government should support ad-free, independent broadcast to encourage public education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too  mute the TV when SBS or ABC run ads DURING programs and I do something else to ignore the ad content.<br />
All my friends do same, so advertisers should realise they are wasting their money. Often it is so annoying that I switch channel or turn off altogether. The Government should support ad-free, independent broadcast to encourage public education.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Bill Hart</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 07:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who believes that Advertising/Sponsorship comes without &quot;conditions&quot; is more than deficient in common-sense. Free to air broadcasting can only be valid if unconditional financial support is provided. Unless we are in Orwellian&#039;s &quot;1984-land&quot; it behoves the government to provide this support as proof that they, the Government, have the interests of the people at heart and are not pushing their own agenda. Both the SBS and the ABC are guilty of pushing the party line of the left leaning elements of our society. I look forward to a reversal of this  situation but am not holding my breath. As we speed towards self destruction I see The Red Headed Liar Bird having her Trills broadcast willy nilly while TA is ridiculed regularly for espousing truth and common-sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who believes that Advertising/Sponsorship comes without &#8220;conditions&#8221; is more than deficient in common-sense. Free to air broadcasting can only be valid if unconditional financial support is provided. Unless we are in Orwellian&#8217;s &#8220;1984-land&#8221; it behoves the government to provide this support as proof that they, the Government, have the interests of the people at heart and are not pushing their own agenda. Both the SBS and the ABC are guilty of pushing the party line of the left leaning elements of our society. I look forward to a reversal of this  situation but am not holding my breath. As we speed towards self destruction I see The Red Headed Liar Bird having her Trills broadcast willy nilly while TA is ridiculed regularly for espousing truth and common-sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Murray Scott</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 07:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tear our hair at advertisements on SBS and the ABC&#039;s excrable self-advertisement. The true commercial channels are simply unendurable regarding content as well as ads. 

Our household has been forced to resort to a technical solution; time shifting all our viewing with a PVR so ads can be skipped with the FWD Jump button. It&#039;s worth the expense and the half-hour delay in The News ... try it!

What&#039;s more, tell SBS and ABC what you are doing so they (and the SBS advertisers) understand that ads are not worth showing or paying for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tear our hair at advertisements on SBS and the ABC&#8217;s excrable self-advertisement. The true commercial channels are simply unendurable regarding content as well as ads. </p>
<p>Our household has been forced to resort to a technical solution; time shifting all our viewing with a PVR so ads can be skipped with the FWD Jump button. It&#8217;s worth the expense and the half-hour delay in The News &#8230; try it!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, tell SBS and ABC what you are doing so they (and the SBS advertisers) understand that ads are not worth showing or paying for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Alan Dow</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 07:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I address my comment to advertisers on SBS.

If you think building resentment in the community towards your company and its products is a great business plan, in-program advertising on SBS is the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I address my comment to advertisers on SBS.</p>
<p>If you think building resentment in the community towards your company and its products is a great business plan, in-program advertising on SBS is the way to go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Alan Dow</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 06:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a pain to see the once-great broadcaster SBS now reduced to mindlessly mimicking the look and feel of commercial TV. I say mindless, because commercial TV stations make at least token efforts to match up their ads and their program content. Not so SBS, whose crass inclusion of unsuitable ads has several times caused me to switch off programs altogether.

Yes! You ruined the whole experience with your dumb ads. Of course those advertisers are now included in my list of what never to buy.

I used to watch the ads on SBS, when they were in between the programs. I watched with a sense of gratitude to the advertisers, for supporting a sane model of TV broadcasting. Not any more.

Under the present regime, the wreckers are not only wasting their money, but they&#039;re ruining the channel for everyone else - and that includes the ethical advertisers as well as the viewers. I wonder how long it will take before the advertisers themselves figure out what a raw deal they are getting.

It is quite obvious that the problem at SBS comes from the top of the organisation. It won&#039;t change until the right people are put back in charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a pain to see the once-great broadcaster SBS now reduced to mindlessly mimicking the look and feel of commercial TV. I say mindless, because commercial TV stations make at least token efforts to match up their ads and their program content. Not so SBS, whose crass inclusion of unsuitable ads has several times caused me to switch off programs altogether.</p>
<p>Yes! You ruined the whole experience with your dumb ads. Of course those advertisers are now included in my list of what never to buy.</p>
<p>I used to watch the ads on SBS, when they were in between the programs. I watched with a sense of gratitude to the advertisers, for supporting a sane model of TV broadcasting. Not any more.</p>
<p>Under the present regime, the wreckers are not only wasting their money, but they&#8217;re ruining the channel for everyone else &#8211; and that includes the ethical advertisers as well as the viewers. I wonder how long it will take before the advertisers themselves figure out what a raw deal they are getting.</p>
<p>It is quite obvious that the problem at SBS comes from the top of the organisation. It won&#8217;t change until the right people are put back in charge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Peter Austin</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advertising on SBS will not go away , particularly in the current economic climate. However, if they must be shown show them at the beginning and end of the show. Not in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising on SBS will not go away , particularly in the current economic climate. However, if they must be shown show them at the beginning and end of the show. Not in the middle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Darce Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Darce Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 05:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to take issue with Smantha&#039;s post where she wrote &quot;Just get rid of the advertisements within the programs and only then will your credibility be restored.&quot;

Advertising within programs disrupts and degrades the viewers experience. So while there is good reason to oppose advertising within programs, we should not forget advertising BETWEEN programs also distorts and degrade the picture - although in a more subtle way.

Advertisers want to get into viewers heads. They want the DINKS (double income, no kids) and other affluent demographics. They value some viewers more than others. They want the big spenders. Not necessarily just the millionaires, but large groups with disposable incomes.   They want big audiences - not small communities with little English.  They want viewers with a disposable income - not the unemployed, people on welfare or people on temporary visas.

If you have little in the way of disposable income the advertisers are not interested in you.  When broadcasters become reliant on the advertisers they will also lose interest in you.  And this holds true no matter whether the adverts are in programs or between programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to take issue with Smantha&#8217;s post where she wrote &#8220;Just get rid of the advertisements within the programs and only then will your credibility be restored.&#8221;</p>
<p>Advertising within programs disrupts and degrades the viewers experience. So while there is good reason to oppose advertising within programs, we should not forget advertising BETWEEN programs also distorts and degrade the picture &#8211; although in a more subtle way.</p>
<p>Advertisers want to get into viewers heads. They want the DINKS (double income, no kids) and other affluent demographics. They value some viewers more than others. They want the big spenders. Not necessarily just the millionaires, but large groups with disposable incomes.   They want big audiences &#8211; not small communities with little English.  They want viewers with a disposable income &#8211; not the unemployed, people on welfare or people on temporary visas.</p>
<p>If you have little in the way of disposable income the advertisers are not interested in you.  When broadcasters become reliant on the advertisers they will also lose interest in you.  And this holds true no matter whether the adverts are in programs or between programs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Rodney Lynch</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 05:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the introduction of advertising onto the S.B.S., there has been a  dumbing down of news, and current affairs. This is typical of commercial stations which want to please their bosses, the advertisers. When the S.B.S., and the ABC too, dump those annoying ads onto us DURING the programs I use the mute button on the remote control. Advertising interruptions to our programme viewing are so very annoying. I know that the S.B.S. management is doing what the commercial advertisers tell it to do, but I can not understand why the ABC spoils our radio and television programmes with advertising intrusions. Commercial advertising on the S.B.S. is one reason why Liberal, and Labor will be going to the end of my ballot paper in the fast approaching federal election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the introduction of advertising onto the S.B.S., there has been a  dumbing down of news, and current affairs. This is typical of commercial stations which want to please their bosses, the advertisers. When the S.B.S., and the ABC too, dump those annoying ads onto us DURING the programs I use the mute button on the remote control. Advertising interruptions to our programme viewing are so very annoying. I know that the S.B.S. management is doing what the commercial advertisers tell it to do, but I can not understand why the ABC spoils our radio and television programmes with advertising intrusions. Commercial advertising on the S.B.S. is one reason why Liberal, and Labor will be going to the end of my ballot paper in the fast approaching federal election.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Mia Campioni</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Mia Campioni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 04:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original idea of SBS has been undermined for many years, and indeed the content is increasingly dumbed down, even to the extent that SBS2 is a total washout. Keep going like this and we will loose the most important part of public broadcasting in the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original idea of SBS has been undermined for many years, and indeed the content is increasingly dumbed down, even to the extent that SBS2 is a total washout. Keep going like this and we will loose the most important part of public broadcasting in the world!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Phil</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well I guess we will just have to record programmes and fast forward through the ads - It is annoying but  many of us have either had to do this with commercial television - where ads are in plague proportions - or give up watching the stations altogether (probably the best idea)

The internet based catchup  services are a little more problematic, since they are often coded to prevent recording, and you cannot fast forward, not even on the SBS one that often repeats the same advert ad nauseum.  But fortunately those in the know can find programs that get round these recording blocks, thereby creating recordings that can be fast forwarded.  These have to be updated from time to time in a Quixotic tilt against the advertising mills

Legal or illegal, our behaviour is often driven by unreasonable commercial practice.  Surely there could be a three month experimental period where adverts are only allowed between programmes, or in the case of long programmes every one and a half hours, provided more than half an hour remains to the programme.

At least SBS has avoided sponsorship.  The way that is going elsewhere, next time there is a Coronation the Monarch may be crowned using &quot;the Emirates King Edwards Crown&quot; and be presented with the &quot;Mc Donalds Orb&quot; and the &quot;Hyundai Sceptre&quot; whilst seated above &quot;the Uncle Bens porridge Stone of Scone&quot; which is held within the  &quot;Guinness Coronation Chair&quot; 

No more &quot;Zadok The Priest&quot; - the choir will be singing &quot;it&#039;s the Real Thing&quot;

Very few animals defecate in the same area that they sit.  We humans could learn a lot from watching other species</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well I guess we will just have to record programmes and fast forward through the ads &#8211; It is annoying but  many of us have either had to do this with commercial television &#8211; where ads are in plague proportions &#8211; or give up watching the stations altogether (probably the best idea)</p>
<p>The internet based catchup  services are a little more problematic, since they are often coded to prevent recording, and you cannot fast forward, not even on the SBS one that often repeats the same advert ad nauseum.  But fortunately those in the know can find programs that get round these recording blocks, thereby creating recordings that can be fast forwarded.  These have to be updated from time to time in a Quixotic tilt against the advertising mills</p>
<p>Legal or illegal, our behaviour is often driven by unreasonable commercial practice.  Surely there could be a three month experimental period where adverts are only allowed between programmes, or in the case of long programmes every one and a half hours, provided more than half an hour remains to the programme.</p>
<p>At least SBS has avoided sponsorship.  The way that is going elsewhere, next time there is a Coronation the Monarch may be crowned using &#8220;the Emirates King Edwards Crown&#8221; and be presented with the &#8220;Mc Donalds Orb&#8221; and the &#8220;Hyundai Sceptre&#8221; whilst seated above &#8220;the Uncle Bens porridge Stone of Scone&#8221; which is held within the  &#8220;Guinness Coronation Chair&#8221; </p>
<p>No more &#8220;Zadok The Priest&#8221; &#8211; the choir will be singing &#8220;it&#8217;s the Real Thing&#8221;</p>
<p>Very few animals defecate in the same area that they sit.  We humans could learn a lot from watching other species</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Marie Fisher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly with Maria.  SBS was a jewel that is no more.  Unless it can rise again like a phoenix from the ashes of commercialisation, I will continue to watch only ad-free ABC, when there is something worth watching, and when there&#039;s not I&#039;ll read a book.  But oh! I do still miss the wonderful old SBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly with Maria.  SBS was a jewel that is no more.  Unless it can rise again like a phoenix from the ashes of commercialisation, I will continue to watch only ad-free ABC, when there is something worth watching, and when there&#8217;s not I&#8217;ll read a book.  But oh! I do still miss the wonderful old SBS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Laurence See</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence See</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When SBS or ABC run ads DURING programs I mute the TV and do something else to ignore ad content.
Friends do same, so advertisers should realise they are wasting money. Often it is so annoying that we switch channel or turn off. Govt should support ad-free, independent broadcast to encourage public education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When SBS or ABC run ads DURING programs I mute the TV and do something else to ignore ad content.<br />
Friends do same, so advertisers should realise they are wasting money. Often it is so annoying that we switch channel or turn off. Govt should support ad-free, independent broadcast to encourage public education.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by Alex Wood</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 01:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is reasonable to change one&#039;s mind, to me it feels as if all political will to ensure SBS is like ABC a different, in my opinion better creature than commercial television, with loss to SBS and personal enjoyment. 

Alas much of life has become commercially oriented, but thinking time and new thought are better served by lack of commercial breaks in programmes, which idea seems lost to politicians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is reasonable to change one&#8217;s mind, to me it feels as if all political will to ensure SBS is like ABC a different, in my opinion better creature than commercial television, with loss to SBS and personal enjoyment. </p>
<p>Alas much of life has become commercially oriented, but thinking time and new thought are better served by lack of commercial breaks in programmes, which idea seems lost to politicians?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Alex Wood</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 01:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undoubtedly the Ad breaks in SBS are irritating and make me do something else until better broadcasting resumes.  At the start &amp; end of programmes they are far more likely to have me watching and in a better frame of mind to be receptive to ads. Financial considerations are part of life for all of us, but so is a pleasant experience, so please continue to pursue the original placement of ads, as above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undoubtedly the Ad breaks in SBS are irritating and make me do something else until better broadcasting resumes.  At the start &#038; end of programmes they are far more likely to have me watching and in a better frame of mind to be receptive to ads. Financial considerations are part of life for all of us, but so is a pleasant experience, so please continue to pursue the original placement of ads, as above.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Adrian</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 01:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to see such a broadcaster placing more store on dollar income than providing quality programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to see such a broadcaster placing more store on dollar income than providing quality programming.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Maria</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 00:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBS, along with its long-ago move to advertising, has been profaning its charter for many years. Its move to remove foreign language content away from prime time slots shows the disdain it had / has for foreign language content, and also shows it did that because it didn’t think foreign language programs would sell advertising. 

Since advertising on SBS, we’ve seen the dumbing-down of news and current affairs, a scramble to find the most banal and insipid programs in the hope to appeal to advertisers, and foreign language content moved from SBS 1 to SBS 2.   

It’s not like SBS has just lost its way, it lost its way something like more than 10-15 years ago. It makes a mockery of its own charter, has little to no integrity, and has made dull and lacklustre the wonderful jewel it once was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBS, along with its long-ago move to advertising, has been profaning its charter for many years. Its move to remove foreign language content away from prime time slots shows the disdain it had / has for foreign language content, and also shows it did that because it didn’t think foreign language programs would sell advertising. </p>
<p>Since advertising on SBS, we’ve seen the dumbing-down of news and current affairs, a scramble to find the most banal and insipid programs in the hope to appeal to advertisers, and foreign language content moved from SBS 1 to SBS 2.   </p>
<p>It’s not like SBS has just lost its way, it lost its way something like more than 10-15 years ago. It makes a mockery of its own charter, has little to no integrity, and has made dull and lacklustre the wonderful jewel it once was.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Tony Hillier</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hillier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 22:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The increasing commercialisation of SBS is unconscionable. At the very least, programs should not be fractured by crudely placed ads, like the TPG one that is considerably louder in volume than the others!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The increasing commercialisation of SBS is unconscionable. At the very least, programs should not be fractured by crudely placed ads, like the TPG one that is considerably louder in volume than the others!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New law deregulates ads by sam</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3429/comment-page-1#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 05:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same Minster that in Opposition was going to stop SBS from placing ads in programs? Double standard hey, not just the Minister but the Greens too. Didn’t they propose to reduce advertising on SBS? Now they vote to legislate for unlimited advertising and dilute the Charter. That’s not very green. Seems everyone is getting in on the double standard act even Malcolm Turnbull. The post said last year he would not deregulate advertising but now he has. I guess everyone wanted to join the double standard act. What is the Opposition’s policy now and the Greens? Are they all in favour of the status quo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same Minster that in Opposition was going to stop SBS from placing ads in programs? Double standard hey, not just the Minister but the Greens too. Didn’t they propose to reduce advertising on SBS? Now they vote to legislate for unlimited advertising and dilute the Charter. That’s not very green. Seems everyone is getting in on the double standard act even Malcolm Turnbull. The post said last year he would not deregulate advertising but now he has. I guess everyone wanted to join the double standard act. What is the Opposition’s policy now and the Greens? Are they all in favour of the status quo?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Frederick</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 00:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the article is suggesting that sbs did not request funds to move the advertisements back to where they used to be, away from the programs, then that makes me wonder if perhaps finance is not motivating the decision to keep the advertisements inside the programs. Is sbs more interested in looking commercial, just for the sake of it? That&#039;s how this now seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the article is suggesting that sbs did not request funds to move the advertisements back to where they used to be, away from the programs, then that makes me wonder if perhaps finance is not motivating the decision to keep the advertisements inside the programs. Is sbs more interested in looking commercial, just for the sake of it? That&#8217;s how this now seems.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Alissa</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Alissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 18:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is most significant. Thanks for the background info. But I want to remark on a few general things about the website. Style is wonderful, the articles really easy to read. Good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is most significant. Thanks for the background info. But I want to remark on a few general things about the website. Style is wonderful, the articles really easy to read. Good job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by antino si</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>antino si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 01:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the money is little. that is why SBS problems has. of course they should not have ads always and that makes SBS problems worse for money radio and tv. i not like ads</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the money is little. that is why SBS problems has. of course they should not have ads always and that makes SBS problems worse for money radio and tv. i not like ads</p>
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		<title>Comment on Budget outcome: SBS own worst enemy by Samantha</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3446/comment-page-1#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 23:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entirely predictable. I agree with everything in the article. It was only a matter of time before SBS would feel the full brunt of their own stupidity. Does SBS not understand that when they ramped up their commercial side ultimately their message became ‘we need less government funding’. This combined with the state of the economy made Wayne Swan’s job a whole lot easier. The sad truth is SBS is now unwatchable. It’s up to the SBS board to reverse this sad outcome because clearly the management hasn’t and won’t. Just get rid of the advertisements within the programs and only then will your credibility be restored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entirely predictable. I agree with everything in the article. It was only a matter of time before SBS would feel the full brunt of their own stupidity. Does SBS not understand that when they ramped up their commercial side ultimately their message became ‘we need less government funding’. This combined with the state of the economy made Wayne Swan’s job a whole lot easier. The sad truth is SBS is now unwatchable. It’s up to the SBS board to reverse this sad outcome because clearly the management hasn’t and won’t. Just get rid of the advertisements within the programs and only then will your credibility be restored.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Bill</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Go Back to Where You Came From&quot; second series was at times harrowing viewing.  By all reports it achieved a very large audience by SBS standards and I believe it has made a worthy contribution to the debate in Australia.  However, the placement of advertising within such a program was a big mistake.  The viewer is jolted out of the horrors before us in Somalia and Afghanistan to see ads for the likes of McDonalds $3 burger deals, Commonwealth Bank (where you can apparently fund whatever you want), Renault cars, Werther chocolates, etc.  As if these juxtapositions were not enough, these ads themselves were sequenced with spots for World Vision and UNHCR.  These latter were obviously highly compatible with the program, but not with the other ads!

To top it off, SBS ran jarring promos for &quot;The School: Educating Sussex&quot; within the breaks, and other upcoming programs.  If ever there was a documentary that should not be interrupted, &quot;Go Back&quot; was surely one.  I felt distress at being jerked out of the program into ads which promoted such a wealth and lifestyle that the suffering people in the documentary could not begin to imagine.  The program loses impact in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Go Back to Where You Came From&#8221; second series was at times harrowing viewing.  By all reports it achieved a very large audience by SBS standards and I believe it has made a worthy contribution to the debate in Australia.  However, the placement of advertising within such a program was a big mistake.  The viewer is jolted out of the horrors before us in Somalia and Afghanistan to see ads for the likes of McDonalds $3 burger deals, Commonwealth Bank (where you can apparently fund whatever you want), Renault cars, Werther chocolates, etc.  As if these juxtapositions were not enough, these ads themselves were sequenced with spots for World Vision and UNHCR.  These latter were obviously highly compatible with the program, but not with the other ads!</p>
<p>To top it off, SBS ran jarring promos for &#8220;The School: Educating Sussex&#8221; within the breaks, and other upcoming programs.  If ever there was a documentary that should not be interrupted, &#8220;Go Back&#8221; was surely one.  I felt distress at being jerked out of the program into ads which promoted such a wealth and lifestyle that the suffering people in the documentary could not begin to imagine.  The program loses impact in the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Lucy S</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 12:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A program well made. A bit tabloid in parts I doubt it did anything to better the public debate. For me it failed. 

How silly of SBS to schedule Insight the night after Go Back To Where You Came From. If it had been after the final episode, I would watched it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A program well made. A bit tabloid in parts I doubt it did anything to better the public debate. For me it failed. </p>
<p>How silly of SBS to schedule Insight the night after Go Back To Where You Came From. If it had been after the final episode, I would watched it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Luciano</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Luciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you SBS for this program. I just finished watching the series. Recorders are great to skip the adverts. I would have watched it live if it weren&#039;t for the annoying disruption to continuity.

I am glad Angry Anderson changed his views. What have we come to though as a nation that so many people dislike or hate asylum seekers - but not many get the chance to go to Afghanistan to see the reality then change their mind. I hope this programe has the same impact on all Australians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SBS for this program. I just finished watching the series. Recorders are great to skip the adverts. I would have watched it live if it weren&#8217;t for the annoying disruption to continuity.</p>
<p>I am glad Angry Anderson changed his views. What have we come to though as a nation that so many people dislike or hate asylum seekers &#8211; but not many get the chance to go to Afghanistan to see the reality then change their mind. I hope this programe has the same impact on all Australians.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by peng</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>peng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this show was lots of non agreement person. very bad. sad truth when many dead name for people returned to birth land. this was cruel australian law that not let them stay. I wish all australian to watch. pleasi to sbs play again. thank yo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this show was lots of non agreement person. very bad. sad truth when many dead name for people returned to birth land. this was cruel australian law that not let them stay. I wish all australian to watch. pleasi to sbs play again. thank yo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Jackson m</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Save Our SBS for a very compressive review. I haven’t seen any other articles this detailed elsewhere. You&#039;ve enticed me to watch but I’ll get the DVD to see it without ads blasting at me as I couldn&#039;t stand to have such an important topic ruined by commercial disruptions. If SBS got the biggest funding increase ever, why are there still advert breaks in the programs? 

SBS makes some good programs but it is not fair that my only access to this ad free is to buy a DVD when it ought to be free of commercial breaks on public TV.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Save Our SBS for a very compressive review. I haven’t seen any other articles this detailed elsewhere. You&#8217;ve enticed me to watch but I’ll get the DVD to see it without ads blasting at me as I couldn&#8217;t stand to have such an important topic ruined by commercial disruptions. If SBS got the biggest funding increase ever, why are there still advert breaks in the programs? </p>
<p>SBS makes some good programs but it is not fair that my only access to this ad free is to buy a DVD when it ought to be free of commercial breaks on public TV.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Polly</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t most irregular arrivals by plane not boat and do those on holidays who overstay their visa get a better deal than boat people? Yet it is boat people who are the ones fleeing from dangerous life threatening circumstances with no home. We should be hounered that they choose our country of all places to want to live. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t most irregular arrivals by plane not boat and do those on holidays who overstay their visa get a better deal than boat people? Yet it is boat people who are the ones fleeing from dangerous life threatening circumstances with no home. We should be hounered that they choose our country of all places to want to live.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Yossi</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Yossi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having heard about the second series of &quot;Go Back To where You Came From&quot;, I&#039;m looking forward to how more prominent Australians&#039; will feel after they have experienced the journey of fleeing and becoming a refugee. Fortuntely for them, unlike real refugees who have fled by boat, the people in the program will never truely feel the horror and desperation because they know they will eventually return to their own safe lives in Australia. I hope that the participants, the audience, the wider community and the politicians in general will start to wake up and make the right decision in treating asylum seekers with dignity and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having heard about the second series of &#8220;Go Back To where You Came From&#8221;, I&#8217;m looking forward to how more prominent Australians&#8217; will feel after they have experienced the journey of fleeing and becoming a refugee. Fortuntely for them, unlike real refugees who have fled by boat, the people in the program will never truely feel the horror and desperation because they know they will eventually return to their own safe lives in Australia. I hope that the participants, the audience, the wider community and the politicians in general will start to wake up and make the right decision in treating asylum seekers with dignity and compassion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go Back returns for second series by Ahuva</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/3136/comment-page-1#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahuva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really looking forward to this program except for the commercial intrusions. After Tampa I lost all respect for Peter Reith and John Howard’s smug attitude too. I hope with the passage of time and this program Reith has changed. You never know. Other great Liberal’s like Malcolm Fraser, always a humanitarian, yet still managed to grow in himself and expand in his thinking, after leaving politics. Reith should take a leaf out of Fraser’s book not Abbot’s. 

Equally I hope this new series will cause both Liberal and Labor politicians to be more compassionate towards asylum seekers, no matter how arrival occurs. It seems not though. 

For those who dam boat people, think again. A boat smuggler may be a shoddy business and out to make a buck but so was Schindler as in Schindler’s List. In bad there is sometimes good, especially when people’s lives are saved. For the persecuted the only choices may be to stay put and die or take a gamble with a shoddy businessman where you might be saved. 

An entire race was almost wiped out during the Second World War. The surviving lucky ones who managed to get to our shores, only settled here because our attitudes then were welcoming. In today’s Australia with current attitudes, would we turn away a race where ordinary people were murdered on-masse? Would we lock them up for years? With the new immigration laws we now will. Full marks to SBS for making this show. Pity our current political leaders weren’t the ones in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really looking forward to this program except for the commercial intrusions. After Tampa I lost all respect for Peter Reith and John Howard’s smug attitude too. I hope with the passage of time and this program Reith has changed. You never know. Other great Liberal’s like Malcolm Fraser, always a humanitarian, yet still managed to grow in himself and expand in his thinking, after leaving politics. Reith should take a leaf out of Fraser’s book not Abbot’s. </p>
<p>Equally I hope this new series will cause both Liberal and Labor politicians to be more compassionate towards asylum seekers, no matter how arrival occurs. It seems not though. </p>
<p>For those who dam boat people, think again. A boat smuggler may be a shoddy business and out to make a buck but so was Schindler as in Schindler’s List. In bad there is sometimes good, especially when people’s lives are saved. For the persecuted the only choices may be to stay put and die or take a gamble with a shoddy businessman where you might be saved. </p>
<p>An entire race was almost wiped out during the Second World War. The surviving lucky ones who managed to get to our shores, only settled here because our attitudes then were welcoming. In today’s Australia with current attitudes, would we turn away a race where ordinary people were murdered on-masse? Would we lock them up for years? With the new immigration laws we now will. Full marks to SBS for making this show. Pity our current political leaders weren’t the ones in it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Lyn Eggins</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn Eggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV Advertising? My pet hate! So intrusive and meaningless. I love SBS, but the advertising it has been forced to adopt to retain enough working funds, spoils the wonderful programs put to air. At least if they were all in one bunch, they would be less intrusive that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV Advertising? My pet hate! So intrusive and meaningless. I love SBS, but the advertising it has been forced to adopt to retain enough working funds, spoils the wonderful programs put to air. At least if they were all in one bunch, they would be less intrusive that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Raymond Gunning</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Gunning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seldom watch anymore because of the advertising during programs. Bunch them together before each program. The Canadians did this years ago as you used to. SBS has really messed itself up. Terrible shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seldom watch anymore because of the advertising during programs. Bunch them together before each program. The Canadians did this years ago as you used to. SBS has really messed itself up. Terrible shame.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Dennis Raft</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Raft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ads in SBS programs are disruptive,Especially in foreign language films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ads in SBS programs are disruptive,Especially in foreign language films.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Sloss</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Sloss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 01:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without the special it&#039;s just &lt;em&gt;BS&lt;/em&gt;, and we all know BS stands for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the special it&#8217;s just <em>BS</em>, and we all know BS stands for!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Helen Nugent</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Nugent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please phase out disruptive in-program advertising on SBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please phase out disruptive in-program advertising on SBS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Dr Geoff Bower</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Geoff Bower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 00:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More strength not less to our old style Special Broadcasting Service.  More funding for in house programmes and more quality programming.  Make the SBS Board responsible for improving not imasculating SBS.

Support Scott Ludlam&#039;s Bill too, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More strength not less to our old style Special Broadcasting Service.  More funding for in house programmes and more quality programming.  Make the SBS Board responsible for improving not imasculating SBS.</p>
<p>Support Scott Ludlam&#8217;s Bill too, please.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outsourcing SBS by Mikhail</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/2655/comment-page-1#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheaper to outsource, really? I’m not fooled. SBS was ‘special’ once but now it&#039;s really special… special as in cheap! A poor commercial look a like. I still love sbs but would love it a whole lot more if they stopped ripping the guts out of it. I haven&#039;t forgotten. This government broke their promise to fund sbs free of commercial influence. I question the motive of SBS management too. Outsource SBS and all the culture will be lost forever. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheaper to outsource, really? I’m not fooled. SBS was ‘special’ once but now it&#8217;s really special… special as in cheap! A poor commercial look a like. I still love sbs but would love it a whole lot more if they stopped ripping the guts out of it. I haven&#8217;t forgotten. This government broke their promise to fund sbs free of commercial influence. I question the motive of SBS management too. Outsource SBS and all the culture will be lost forever.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by Staff Member</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Staff Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new SBS MD is stated to have &lt;em&gt;&quot;both a strong commercial background and experience seeking cost savings by rationalising production resources&quot;&lt;/em&gt;. That sentence could have been cribbed from a similar piece after Shaun Brown was appointed to the position, because the same thing could have been said of him. 

Having a managerial type with little experience of broadcasting and little understanding of SBS is the last thing the place needs after years of Brown and Campbell. Having eviscerated all trace of identity and distinction from SBS in the name of chasing ratings and thus advertising revenue, we had perhaps hoped that the board would see fit to appoint someone who understands that public broadcasters exist at least partly to serve a constituency whose interests are not (and will never be) served by commercial interests.

Sadly this appears not to be the case, and we are destined for more of the same mediocrity, a mediocrity which fails to even deliver the supposed raison d’etre of the strategy -- the decimation of the schedule hasn’t even increased SBS TV’s audience reach. Still at least the new MD may not sink to such managerial lows as making half the subtitling unit redundant at a cost of hundreds of thousands of taxpayers&#039; dollars, only to re-hire 10 new people in the unit in the nine months since the redundancies (of course, the 10 new staff are on contract so they keep their mouths shut whereas those made redundant were permanent and vocal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new SBS MD is stated to have <em>&#8220;both a strong commercial background and experience seeking cost savings by rationalising production resources&#8221;</em>. That sentence could have been cribbed from a similar piece after Shaun Brown was appointed to the position, because the same thing could have been said of him. </p>
<p>Having a managerial type with little experience of broadcasting and little understanding of SBS is the last thing the place needs after years of Brown and Campbell. Having eviscerated all trace of identity and distinction from SBS in the name of chasing ratings and thus advertising revenue, we had perhaps hoped that the board would see fit to appoint someone who understands that public broadcasters exist at least partly to serve a constituency whose interests are not (and will never be) served by commercial interests.</p>
<p>Sadly this appears not to be the case, and we are destined for more of the same mediocrity, a mediocrity which fails to even deliver the supposed raison d’etre of the strategy &#8212; the decimation of the schedule hasn’t even increased SBS TV’s audience reach. Still at least the new MD may not sink to such managerial lows as making half the subtitling unit redundant at a cost of hundreds of thousands of taxpayers&#8217; dollars, only to re-hire 10 new people in the unit in the nine months since the redundancies (of course, the 10 new staff are on contract so they keep their mouths shut whereas those made redundant were permanent and vocal).</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by Madge</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 06:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as SB has gone who cares. I hope he takes MC with him. 
If his only credit is that he brought commercials to SBS then he will have to live with that shame himself. It&#039;s a wonder he can sleep at night.

Mr Ebeib couldn&#039;t be any worse. Seriously nothing could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as SB has gone who cares. I hope he takes MC with him.<br />
If his only credit is that he brought commercials to SBS then he will have to live with that shame himself. It&#8217;s a wonder he can sleep at night.</p>
<p>Mr Ebeib couldn&#8217;t be any worse. Seriously nothing could.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by Milena</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Milena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 06:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBS is great. I probibly listen to radio more than watch tv. The SBS radio advertisments are inforative and not often that annoying but the ads on SBS tv are just wrong. They should not have them in the tv programs. The tv ads were okay when they were at the end of the program. That&#039;s the way it should be and I think this new person should make SBS go back to that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBS is great. I probibly listen to radio more than watch tv. The SBS radio advertisments are inforative and not often that annoying but the ads on SBS tv are just wrong. They should not have them in the tv programs. The tv ads were okay when they were at the end of the program. That&#8217;s the way it should be and I think this new person should make SBS go back to that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by sam</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 00:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree and disagree with everyone. i listened to that interview &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/pm/201104/20110415-pm6-joeskrzynski.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/pm/201104/20110415-pm6-joeskrzynski.mp3&lt;/a&gt; Unlike Peter J&#039;s interpretation, i dont think the sbs chairman said if he favoured the ads or not. he said that if the government has enough money to buy out the advertising, that may be an option for the future. i took his comment as hope, although he didn&#039;t sound like he really cared one way or the other. i for one would like him to care about the ads and start pushing the government to get them out of the programs at least. 

it does seem odd that SBS wanted a marketing person to run the organisation when evrone i know hates and disagrees with the ads on sbs. Aren&#039;t advertising people also marketing people. it does come across that sbs have ignored the wider public sentiment. hasn&#039;t sbs noticed the public outcries,that no one wants the commercial approach anymore. however the article above did say mr Ebeid was responsible for strategy at pay tv and I agree with Ahuva that a good strategist should be able to use their skills to get the government to do as the chairman said - to buy out advertising. so i&#039;ll judge Mr Ebeid by what he does and does not do, not his past. I&#039;m prepared to give him a go. I think everyone else should too </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and disagree with everyone. i listened to that interview <a target="_blank" href="http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/pm/201104/20110415-pm6-joeskrzynski.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/audio/pm/201104/20110415-pm6-joeskrzynski.mp3</a> Unlike Peter J&#8217;s interpretation, i dont think the sbs chairman said if he favoured the ads or not. he said that if the government has enough money to buy out the advertising, that may be an option for the future. i took his comment as hope, although he didn&#8217;t sound like he really cared one way or the other. i for one would like him to care about the ads and start pushing the government to get them out of the programs at least. </p>
<p>it does seem odd that SBS wanted a marketing person to run the organisation when evrone i know hates and disagrees with the ads on sbs. Aren&#8217;t advertising people also marketing people. it does come across that sbs have ignored the wider public sentiment. hasn&#8217;t sbs noticed the public outcries,that no one wants the commercial approach anymore. however the article above did say mr Ebeid was responsible for strategy at pay tv and I agree with Ahuva that a good strategist should be able to use their skills to get the government to do as the chairman said &#8211; to buy out advertising. so i&#8217;ll judge Mr Ebeid by what he does and does not do, not his past. I&#8217;m prepared to give him a go. I think everyone else should too</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by AHUVA</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>AHUVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBS is ok. i like it. I&#039;d like to see more ethnic programs though. i agree the ads are very annoying. it would be good if they could be stopped, or at least less of them. I hope this mr Ebeid will try to take the sbs there. if he has a background as a strategist, it can&#039;t be that difficult to get enough funding from the government for such a good cause. afterall, no one really wants the ads, do they</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBS is ok. i like it. I&#8217;d like to see more ethnic programs though. i agree the ads are very annoying. it would be good if they could be stopped, or at least less of them. I hope this mr Ebeid will try to take the sbs there. if he has a background as a strategist, it can&#8217;t be that difficult to get enough funding from the government for such a good cause. afterall, no one really wants the ads, do they</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by Michelios D.</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelios D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn&#039;t hear the interview but read transcript on that link. the sbs chairman said - sbs is &#039;not an ethnic TV or radio&#039; station. hey? think i missed something? that explains the commercials. not ethnic. now it&#039;s offical. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t hear the interview but read transcript on that link. the sbs chairman said &#8211; sbs is &#8216;not an ethnic TV or radio&#8217; station. hey? think i missed something? that explains the commercials. not ethnic. now it&#8217;s offical. thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Chief at SBS by Peter J</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1805/comment-page-1#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from his place of birth, what&#039;s his past record with other cultures? And why is he &quot;well suited&quot; to help migrants settle? Sounds to me like he&#039;s a commercial guy who happens to have worked in the media. I don&#039;t want to pre-judge the man BUT is he committed to &lt;i&gt;public&lt;/i&gt; broadcasting? Marketing! Commercial background!!! These sound alarm bells for me. I want SBS to take the non-commercial path. Get rid of the ad breaks, please! Having just heard an &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot;  href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3192975.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ABC Radio interview with SBS&lt;/a&gt; I now feel very worried indeed. The Chairman of SBS wasn&#039;t advocating to get rid of the ads. When asked, he seems not to mind them. No wonder SBS has ads. I can&#039;t ever recall hearing of SBS asking any government for funds instead of ads. Mr Ebeid: perhaps you might be the first. Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from his place of birth, what&#8217;s his past record with other cultures? And why is he &quot;well suited&quot; to help migrants settle? Sounds to me like he&#8217;s a commercial guy who happens to have worked in the media. I don&#8217;t want to pre-judge the man BUT is he committed to <i>public</i> broadcasting? Marketing! Commercial background!!! These sound alarm bells for me. I want SBS to take the non-commercial path. Get rid of the ad breaks, please! Having just heard an <a target="_blank"  href="http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3192975.htm" rel="nofollow">ABC Radio interview with SBS</a> I now feel very worried indeed. The Chairman of SBS wasn&#8217;t advocating to get rid of the ads. When asked, he seems not to mind them. No wonder SBS has ads. I can&#8217;t ever recall hearing of SBS asking any government for funds instead of ads. Mr Ebeid: perhaps you might be the first. Please.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sayonara, adios, goodbye by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1099/comment-page-1#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We would like to acknowledge the work and life of the late Cathy Carey. The last story that Cathy Carey wrote was &lt;a title=&quot;Sayonara, adios, goodbye&quot; href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1099&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Sayonara, adios, goodbye&lt;/a&gt;. It was published by &lt;i&gt;SaveOurSBS.org&lt;/i&gt; on 26 June 2010. Cathy&#039;s contribution to Save Our SBS was much valued. Cathy passed away on 12 January this year aged 57. A tribute to her is &lt;a title=&quot;A passion for a life less ordinary by Alan Sunderland&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/national/obituaries/a-passion-for-a-life-less-ordinary-20110201-1acck.html?skin=text-only&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would like to acknowledge the work and life of the late Cathy Carey. The last story that Cathy Carey wrote was <a title="Sayonara, adios, goodbye" href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1099" rel="nofollow"> Sayonara, adios, goodbye</a>. It was published by <i>SaveOurSBS.org</i> on 26 June 2010. Cathy&#8217;s contribution to Save Our SBS was much valued. Cathy passed away on 12 January this year aged 57. A tribute to her is <a title="A passion for a life less ordinary by Alan Sunderland" target="_blank" href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/obituaries/a-passion-for-a-life-less-ordinary-20110201-1acck.html?skin=text-only" rel="nofollow"> here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline to have two hosts by blitzenfest</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1688/comment-page-1#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>blitzenfest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! In my opinion Negus was utter crap and anyone will be a big imporvement, Negus should stick to the 7pm report. That is his calibre of journalism. I have no idea why he is so highly regarded in Australian journalism. I am Looking forward to having Davis back in the chair, someone who can actually conduct a decent interview and doesn&#039;t resort to tired cliches every 10 seconds. My highlight of lame Negus moments was the pointless and boring interview he conducted with Ghaddafi which he finished off by giving Ghaddafi a gift of his a book he wrote about his views on Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! In my opinion Negus was utter crap and anyone will be a big imporvement, Negus should stick to the 7pm report. That is his calibre of journalism. I have no idea why he is so highly regarded in Australian journalism. I am Looking forward to having Davis back in the chair, someone who can actually conduct a decent interview and doesn&#8217;t resort to tired cliches every 10 seconds. My highlight of lame Negus moments was the pointless and boring interview he conducted with Ghaddafi which he finished off by giving Ghaddafi a gift of his a book he wrote about his views on Islam.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline to have two hosts by Michelios D.</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1688/comment-page-1#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelios D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>george was good. sad to see him go tho. yalda brilliant replacement. mark - yes. sbs making some right decisions at last. should have more shows like dateline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>george was good. sad to see him go tho. yalda brilliant replacement. mark &#8211; yes. sbs making some right decisions at last. should have more shows like dateline.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ads stay: SBS disappointed by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1599/comment-page-1#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 02:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today SBS provided &lt;i&gt;SaveOurSBS.org&lt;/i&gt; with an explanation for the rise in commercial revenue in 2013-2014. It is due to the 2014 &lt;i&gt;FIFA World Cup&lt;/i&gt;. SBS said that will provide a one-off revenue boost for that year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today SBS provided <i>SaveOurSBS.org</i> with an explanation for the rise in commercial revenue in 2013-2014. It is due to the 2014 <i>FIFA World Cup</i>. SBS said that will provide a one-off revenue boost for that year.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election promises for SBS by monarols</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1396/comment-page-1#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>monarols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped watching SBS the minute (literally) the first ad appeared mid program. I used to always watch the news, whith thier visually fantastic news set. Mary Kostakidis was right in what she did, and yet another reason for me to abandon SBS on that fateful day.

I am happy with commercials that top and tail a program and will happily return to SBS when this occurs. I dont expect SBS to run commercial free. Hopefully Mary will return when the true SBS returns!

My only TV option atm is our great ABC. Thankfully the internet is with us, so any programs on the SBS I want to watch, I usually download off the interweb, minus the ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped watching SBS the minute (literally) the first ad appeared mid program. I used to always watch the news, whith thier visually fantastic news set. Mary Kostakidis was right in what she did, and yet another reason for me to abandon SBS on that fateful day.</p>
<p>I am happy with commercials that top and tail a program and will happily return to SBS when this occurs. I dont expect SBS to run commercial free. Hopefully Mary will return when the true SBS returns!</p>
<p>My only TV option atm is our great ABC. Thankfully the internet is with us, so any programs on the SBS I want to watch, I usually download off the interweb, minus the ads.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election promises for SBS by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1396/comment-page-1#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in Cairns in the electorate of Leichhardt, Queensland. I am also going to vote 1 GREENS this time too because the government has just tossed us aside on this SBS issue and others. When Gillard came here recently she did not mention SBS or how annoying the commercials are for us. Not only are they are disruption but often they are for some product or store in Brisbane that you can’t even get here. They are irrelevant and annoying.

Labor could have got my vote if they had said they would end the commercial breaks on SBS. They could have easily changed some law and made it better. That is what governments do. That is what we expect. With all the money Labor is spending on everything else, they could have announced they would spend 100 or 200 million more to make SBS better. It is not much. On this, the ALP has put the last nail in their own coffin. After reading their policy on SBS I am not voting for them. I did last time because I believed that they would stop those ad breaks. I remember because I still have the emails sent to me from Mr Rudd, Conroy and the ALP office, sent just before the 07 election that said their policy was to object to the advertisements in the programs. That was just a con. They do not care about us viewers or even about SBS. I suppose no one in the ALP watches SBS. They probably thought no one here watches SBS or that it did not matter to us. Wrong. Very wrong.   

GREENS you now have my no 1 vote on this. My friends are doing the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Cairns in the electorate of Leichhardt, Queensland. I am also going to vote 1 GREENS this time too because the government has just tossed us aside on this SBS issue and others. When Gillard came here recently she did not mention SBS or how annoying the commercials are for us. Not only are they are disruption but often they are for some product or store in Brisbane that you can’t even get here. They are irrelevant and annoying.</p>
<p>Labor could have got my vote if they had said they would end the commercial breaks on SBS. They could have easily changed some law and made it better. That is what governments do. That is what we expect. With all the money Labor is spending on everything else, they could have announced they would spend 100 or 200 million more to make SBS better. It is not much. On this, the ALP has put the last nail in their own coffin. After reading their policy on SBS I am not voting for them. I did last time because I believed that they would stop those ad breaks. I remember because I still have the emails sent to me from Mr Rudd, Conroy and the ALP office, sent just before the 07 election that said their policy was to object to the advertisements in the programs. That was just a con. They do not care about us viewers or even about SBS. I suppose no one in the ALP watches SBS. They probably thought no one here watches SBS or that it did not matter to us. Wrong. Very wrong.   </p>
<p>GREENS you now have my no 1 vote on this. My friends are doing the same.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election promises for SBS by Michelios D.</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1396/comment-page-1#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelios D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m voting Greens. Never have before but will now. I don’t trust the Libs or Nats but Conroy let me down badly. When he said Labor opposed SBS introducing in-program ads but then did nothing, that was as good as a broken promise. Who does Labor think is being fooled? You could have fixed SBS but have done nothing. I’m switching to Greens 1, Labor 2 and Libs last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m voting Greens. Never have before but will now. I don’t trust the Libs or Nats but Conroy let me down badly. When he said Labor opposed SBS introducing in-program ads but then did nothing, that was as good as a broken promise. Who does Labor think is being fooled? You could have fixed SBS but have done nothing. I’m switching to Greens 1, Labor 2 and Libs last.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBS subtitle restructure by Michelios D.</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/1036/comment-page-1#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelios D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 07:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe sbs. They lost all credibility for me when they began mid-program advertising. That was the beginning of the end and now this. As a 2nd generation Greek, I can say the sbs subtitles are the best I&#039;ve seen anywhere. Better than those on DVDs. If I&#039;ve gotta put up with inferior subtitles from os, I&#039;m emailing the PM. Enough sbs! If you’re gonna have more foreign stuff, then more subtitlers are needed. Not less. Derrrrr. SBS - you haven’t fooled me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe sbs. They lost all credibility for me when they began mid-program advertising. That was the beginning of the end and now this. As a 2nd generation Greek, I can say the sbs subtitles are the best I&#8217;ve seen anywhere. Better than those on DVDs. If I&#8217;ve gotta put up with inferior subtitles from os, I&#8217;m emailing the PM. Enough sbs! If you’re gonna have more foreign stuff, then more subtitlers are needed. Not less. Derrrrr. SBS &#8211; you haven’t fooled me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBS 2009 Budget: Proper Funding &amp; No Ads email the Treasurer &amp; PM by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/339/comment-page-1#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Following the Budget, an email was sent from an Advisor for the Minister to people who participated in the campaign. Some participants did not receive that email. A copy is below.&lt;/em&gt;

OFFICE OF SENATOR THE HON STEPHEN CONROY 
MINISTER FOR BROADBAND, COMMUNICATIONS AND THE DIGITAL ECONOMY 
DEPUTY LEADER OF THE GOVERNMENT IN THE SENATE 

&lt;strong&gt;Funding of SBS&lt;/strong&gt; 

Thank you for your correspondence to the Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy concerning funding for the Special Broadcasting Service (SBS) and advertising on SBS television. The Minister has asked me to respond on his behalf. 

The SBS is one of Australia&#039;s most important cultural institutions. In October 2008, the Australian Government released a public discussion paper aimed at stimulating ideas and comments about the future roles of SBS and the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC). 

The ideas contained in the 2431 submissions received were invaluable in informing the Government&#039;s consideration of funding for SBS and the ABC over the next triennium. 

In the 2009-10 Budget, the Government announced additional funding of $20 million over three years to SBS to enable it to provide up to 50 hours of new Australian content annually. 

This funding will allow SBS to build on its established track record for innovative and cutting edge Australian multicultural stories by commissioning a mix of drama, documentary comedy and entertainment programming. 

In the Budget, SBS also received ongoing operational base funding of $118.7 million in 2009-10; $120.6 million in 2010-11; and $123.3 million in 2011-12. In addition to ongoing operational funding, SBS will receive ongoing transmission funding for the triennium of $249.2 million. 

Advertising 

SBS is permitted under its legislation to operate on a hybrid funding model which includes up to five minutes of advertising per hour during periods before programs begin, after programs end or during natural program breaks. 

In 2008-09, SBS is expected to realise $68.3 million from the sale of goods and services, primarily television advertising revenue. Along with the free-to-air commercial broadcasters, SBS&#039; advertising revenue is likely to be affected over the short-term as a result of the global economic downturn. A new restriction on in-program advertising would substantially reduce the amount of funding available to SBS to support the provision of high quality and diverse programming. In the current economic climate, it is not proposed to require SBS to change its approach to advertising at this time. 

Thank you for bringing these important matters to the Government&#039;s attention. 

MINISTER FOR BROADBAND, COMMUNICATIONS AND THE DIGITAL ECONOMY 
Parliament House, CANBERRA ACT 2600 
Email minister@dbcde.gov.au</description>
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<p>OFFICE OF SENATOR THE HON STEPHEN CONROY<br />
MINISTER FOR BROADBAND, COMMUNICATIONS AND THE DIGITAL ECONOMY<br />
DEPUTY LEADER OF THE GOVERNMENT IN THE SENATE </p>
<p><strong>Funding of SBS</strong> </p>
<p>Thank you for your correspondence to the Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy concerning funding for the Special Broadcasting Service (SBS) and advertising on SBS television. The Minister has asked me to respond on his behalf. </p>
<p>The SBS is one of Australia&#8217;s most important cultural institutions. In October 2008, the Australian Government released a public discussion paper aimed at stimulating ideas and comments about the future roles of SBS and the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC). </p>
<p>The ideas contained in the 2431 submissions received were invaluable in informing the Government&#8217;s consideration of funding for SBS and the ABC over the next triennium. </p>
<p>In the 2009-10 Budget, the Government announced additional funding of $20 million over three years to SBS to enable it to provide up to 50 hours of new Australian content annually. </p>
<p>This funding will allow SBS to build on its established track record for innovative and cutting edge Australian multicultural stories by commissioning a mix of drama, documentary comedy and entertainment programming. </p>
<p>In the Budget, SBS also received ongoing operational base funding of $118.7 million in 2009-10; $120.6 million in 2010-11; and $123.3 million in 2011-12. In addition to ongoing operational funding, SBS will receive ongoing transmission funding for the triennium of $249.2 million. </p>
<p>Advertising </p>
<p>SBS is permitted under its legislation to operate on a hybrid funding model which includes up to five minutes of advertising per hour during periods before programs begin, after programs end or during natural program breaks. </p>
<p>In 2008-09, SBS is expected to realise $68.3 million from the sale of goods and services, primarily television advertising revenue. Along with the free-to-air commercial broadcasters, SBS&#8217; advertising revenue is likely to be affected over the short-term as a result of the global economic downturn. A new restriction on in-program advertising would substantially reduce the amount of funding available to SBS to support the provision of high quality and diverse programming. In the current economic climate, it is not proposed to require SBS to change its approach to advertising at this time. </p>
<p>Thank you for bringing these important matters to the Government&#8217;s attention. </p>
<p>MINISTER FOR BROADBAND, COMMUNICATIONS AND THE DIGITAL ECONOMY<br />
Parliament House, CANBERRA ACT 2600<br />
Email <a href="mailto:minister@dbcde.gov.au">minister@dbcde.gov.au</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Submission – SBS Review by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/334/comment-page-1#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Save Our SBS Inc submission – &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sbs-dept-review-submission-save-our-sbs.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SBS Review&lt;/a&gt;&quot; has also been posted on the website of the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions/s/2635 &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions/s/2635 &lt;/a&gt;
as well as the SaveOurSBS.org website at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/334&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/334&lt;/a&gt; 

There were over 2,400 submissions received by the Department and in a media release the Minister said &lt;em&gt;“The enthusiastic response we have received, confirms that the ABC and SBS are two of Australia’s most important and loved public institutions. They have entertained, educated and informed generations of Australians.”&lt;/em&gt;
 
The consultation called for submissions on how the ABC and SBS should be positioned to best respond to the challenges and opportunities of the emerging digital, online and global media environment. 

&lt;em&gt;“I have noted the interest a number of submissions have shown in the national broadcasters providing a diversity of high quality programming and content, including children’s programming, Australian drama and content in languages other than English,”&lt;/em&gt; Senator Conroy said. 

&lt;em&gt;“The Government will certainly be taking note of these submissions as we consider the next funding round for the ABC and SBS and consider policies for the long-term future of public broadcasting in this country.” &lt;/em&gt;

Senator Conroy said &lt;em&gt;“These submissions will help shape our national broadcasters over the next decade and ensure their future strength and independence as they continue to play a central role in Australia’s emerging digital landscape.”&lt;/em&gt;

A full alphabetical list of all submissions may be found at:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions&lt;/a&gt; 

Save Our SBS believes that some one thousand submissions were made on line via the Save Our SBS campaign that encouraged people to make submissions regarding the SBS.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Save Our SBS Inc submission – &#8220;<a href="http://saveoursbs.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sbs-dept-review-submission-save-our-sbs.pdf" rel="nofollow">SBS Review</a>&#8221; has also been posted on the website of the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy at: <a href="http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions/s/2635 " rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions/s/2635" rel="nofollow">http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions/s/2635</a><br />
as well as the SaveOurSBS.org website at: <a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/334" rel="nofollow">http://saveoursbs.org/archives/334</a> </p>
<p>There were over 2,400 submissions received by the Department and in a media release the Minister said <em>“The enthusiastic response we have received, confirms that the ABC and SBS are two of Australia’s most important and loved public institutions. They have entertained, educated and informed generations of Australians.”</em></p>
<p>The consultation called for submissions on how the ABC and SBS should be positioned to best respond to the challenges and opportunities of the emerging digital, online and global media environment. </p>
<p><em>“I have noted the interest a number of submissions have shown in the national broadcasters providing a diversity of high quality programming and content, including children’s programming, Australian drama and content in languages other than English,”</em> Senator Conroy said. </p>
<p><em>“The Government will certainly be taking note of these submissions as we consider the next funding round for the ABC and SBS and consider policies for the long-term future of public broadcasting in this country.” </em></p>
<p>Senator Conroy said <em>“These submissions will help shape our national broadcasters over the next decade and ensure their future strength and independence as they continue to play a central role in Australia’s emerging digital landscape.”</em></p>
<p>A full alphabetical list of all submissions may be found at:  <a href="http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions" rel="nofollow">http://www.dbcde.gov.au/media_broadcasting/consultation_and_submissions/abc_sbs_review/_submissions</a> </p>
<p>Save Our SBS believes that some one thousand submissions were made on line via the Save Our SBS campaign that encouraged people to make submissions regarding the SBS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Private Members Bill Bans Ads Interrupting SBS-TV by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/255/comment-page-1#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Details can be read on the Parliament of Australia Parlinfo Web Site&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; &lt;b&gt;Special Broadcasting Service Amendment (Prohibition of Disruptive Advertising)&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Bill 2008&lt;/i&gt; (Bill Number: 08050) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;at

&lt;a href=&quot;http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=BILLS&amp;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BSEQ_NUM:0%3B&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=BILLS&amp;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BSEQ_NUM:0%3B&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;b&gt;Explanatory Memorandum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;at

&lt;a href=&quot;http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=EMS&amp;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BEM_TYPE:EM%3BSOURCE:Senate%3B&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=EMS&amp;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BEM_TYPE:EM%3BSOURCE:Senate%3B&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><u>Details can be read on the Parliament of Australia Parlinfo Web Site</u></p>
<p> <b>Special Broadcasting Service Amendment (Prohibition of Disruptive Advertising)</b> <i>Bill 2008</i> (Bill Number: 08050) </p>
<p>at</p>
<p><a href="http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=BILLS&#038;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BSEQ_NUM:0%3B" rel="nofollow">http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=BILLS&#038;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BSEQ_NUM:0%3B</a> </p>
<p>The <b>Explanatory Memorandum</b></p>
<p>at</p>
<p><a href="http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=EMS&#038;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BEM_TYPE:EM%3BSOURCE:Senate%3B" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=EMS&#038;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BEM_TYPE:EM%3BSOURCE:Senate%3B" rel="nofollow">http://parlinfoweb.aph.gov.au/piweb/TranslateWIPILink.aspx?Folder=EMS&#038;Criteria=BILL_ID:s620%3BEM_TYPE:EM%3BSOURCE:Senate%3B</a> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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  normal&#039;&gt;&lt;span style=&#039;color:navy&#039;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;Mary Kostakidis and SBS settled their dispute today (23 November 2007). &lt;/font&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  normal&#039;&gt;&lt;span style=&#039;color:navy&#039;&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;The parties reached an amicable agreement out of court. A directions hearing for the case was to be heard in the Federal Court in Sydney earlier today but was not because the two parties reached a last minute agreement . &lt;/font&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;Long time presenter of SBS World News Australia and once former executive on the original SBS Board, had been in disagreement since August this year. In mid August it was reported that Kostakidis walked out on SBS over an alleged breach of contract. &lt;/font&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
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  &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000080&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;It was also reported that Kostakidis was unhappy about the commercialisation of SBS. In late 2006 SBS began interrupting programs for commercial breaks and have been accused of operating like more like a commercial broadcaster than and public broadcaster.
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  &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000080&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;Many commentators have said that SBS was foolish to go down the commercial path and risk loosing their most respected and valued presenter. Kostakidis was considered to be the flagship of the station.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000080&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;Julian Burnside, QC, represented Kostakidis in the dispute. &lt;/font&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000080&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;It is understood that Kostakidis alleged that under the terms of her contract, she was to allowed exercise some editorial control and that SBS breached that condition. She was unhappy about one of her co-presenters, Stan Grant and the dominant commercial flavour of the news. It was reported that at one stage SBS had decided tha all segments should end with a tabloid type story that was easy to digest.
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  &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000080&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;In January 2006, World News Australia changed from a half hour bulletin to a one hour bulletin. &lt;/font&gt; &lt;/b&gt;
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  &lt;b&gt;In a statement issued by SBS, the Chairman of the SBS Board, Carla Zampatti, today paid tribute to Ms Kostakidis&#039; 21 years of service as a news presenter, also pointing out that she had first joined the broadcaster in an 
  executive role in 1980. &quot;SBS fully acknowledges Mary’s immense contribution over the years,&quot; Ms Zampatti said. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;font color=&quot;#000080&quot; size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Lucida Sans Typewriter&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Meanwhile Kostakidis said: &quot;I would like SBS viewers to know that I leave with absolute good will towards the organisation and wish it all the best. It has been a privilege and an honour to front the flagship news program and to speak to a discerning audience that values public broadcasting.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;b&gt;[Save Our SBS interprets that last comment to mean, if you value public broadcasting it will now be up to others to continue the battle to save SBS from it commercialisation approach and stop the ads].&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;b&gt;The issue of interrupting programs for advertisements is the reason that Save Our SBS &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; style=&quot;color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.SaveOurSBS.org&lt;/a&gt; formed. That issue will not die as, like Kostakidis, we too value public broadcasting and do not want to see our multicultural broadcaster operate as a pseudo commercial network.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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      &lt;a href=&quot;http://petition.saveoursbs.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;petition&lt;/a&gt; to 
      protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public 
      broadcaster funded fully by government. Click
      &lt;a href=&quot;http://petition.saveoursbs.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:center'><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:<br />
  normal'><span style='color:yellow;background:red;mso-highlight:<br />
  red'><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">“Mary Kostakidis &amp; SBS settle”</font></span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:yellow'><o :p></o></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:left'><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:<br />
  normal'><span style='color:navy'><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">Mary Kostakidis and SBS settled their dispute today (23 November 2007). </font> </span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:left'><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:<br />
  normal'><span style='color:navy'><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">The parties reached an amicable agreement out of court. A directions hearing for the case was to be heard in the Federal Court in Sydney earlier today but was not because the two parties reached a last minute agreement . </font> </span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:left'><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:<br />
  normal'><span style='color:navy'><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">Details of the settlement are not known. </font> </span></b></p>
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  <font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><span style="color: #000080"><b><br />
  <font size="2">Long time presenter of SBS World News Australia and once former executive on the original SBS Board, had been in disagreement since August this year. In mid August it was reported that Kostakidis walked out on SBS over an alleged breach of contract. </font> </b></span><br />
  </font></p>
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  <span style="color: #000080"><b><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">It was also reported that Kostakidis was unhappy about the commercialisation of SBS. In late 2006 SBS began interrupting programs for commercial breaks and have been accused of operating like more like a commercial broadcaster than and public broadcaster.<br />
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  </b></span></p>
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  <span style="color: #000080"><b><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">Many commentators have said that SBS was foolish to go down the commercial path and risk loosing their most respected and valued presenter. Kostakidis was considered to be the flagship of the station.</font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:left'>
  <span style="color: #000080"><b><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">Julian Burnside, QC, represented Kostakidis in the dispute. </font> </b></span></p>
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  <span style="color: #000080"><b><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">It is understood that Kostakidis alleged that under the terms of her contract, she was to allowed exercise some editorial control and that SBS breached that condition. She was unhappy about one of her co-presenters, Stan Grant and the dominant commercial flavour of the news. It was reported that at one stage SBS had decided tha all segments should end with a tabloid type story that was easy to digest.<br />
  </font> </b><br />
  </span></p>
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  <span style="color: #000080"><b><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">In January 2006, World News Australia changed from a half hour bulletin to a one hour bulletin. </font> </b><br />
  </span></p>
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  <font color="#000080" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><br />
  <b>In a statement issued by SBS, the Chairman of the SBS Board, Carla Zampatti, today paid tribute to Ms Kostakidis&#8217; 21 years of service as a news presenter, also pointing out that she had first joined the broadcaster in an<br />
  executive role in 1980. &quot;SBS fully acknowledges Mary’s immense contribution over the years,&quot; Ms Zampatti said. </b></font></p>
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  <font color="#000080" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><b>Meanwhile Kostakidis said: &quot;I would like SBS viewers to know that I leave with absolute good will towards the organisation and wish it all the best. It has been a privilege and an honour to front the flagship news program and to speak to a discerning audience that values public broadcasting.&quot;</b></font></p>
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  <font color="#000080" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><br />
  <b>[Save Our SBS interprets that last comment to mean, if you value public broadcasting it will now be up to others to continue the battle to save SBS from it commercialisation approach and stop the ads].</b></font></p>
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  <font color="#000080" size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><br />
  <b>The issue of interrupting programs for advertisements is the reason that Save Our SBS <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> formed. That issue will not die as, like Kostakidis, we too value public broadcasting and do not want to see our multicultural broadcaster operate as a pseudo commercial network.</b></font></p>
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  <o :P><font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">&nbsp;</font></o></p>
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      <font size="2" face="Terminal">Sign the<br />
      <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">petition</a> to<br />
      protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public<br />
      broadcaster funded fully by government. Click<br />
      <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><br />
      </a><a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://petition.saveoursbs.org</a> and wait while you are redirected to<br />
      the petition server. </font><br />
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:center'><span style='color:red'><br />
  <font size="2" face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">Read some past blog about Mary Kostakidis<br />
  </font></span> <o :p></o></p>
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  <font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:<br />
  normal'><font size="2">You can track the development of this<br />
  story and read other blog comments<br />
  <a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119#comment-19" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single" rel="nofollow">here</a><br />
  </font> <o :p><font size="2">and<br />
  <a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59#comment-15" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; text-underline: single" rel="nofollow">here</a> too.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by timfm</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>timfm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,

Good luck and best wishes.

Your strength of character is what endeared us to you and is what will see you through this.

With the support of those you love and those you do not even know, regardless of the outcome, your triumph is within yourself.

Congratulations for what you have done for the media and the culture of Australia.

You are missed on our screens but we hold you in our hearts.

Tim Moulton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>Good luck and best wishes.</p>
<p>Your strength of character is what endeared us to you and is what will see you through this.</p>
<p>With the support of those you love and those you do not even know, regardless of the outcome, your triumph is within yourself.</p>
<p>Congratulations for what you have done for the media and the culture of Australia.</p>
<p>You are missed on our screens but we hold you in our hearts.</p>
<p>Tim Moulton.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112/comment-page-1#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You can read the full Post from the top of the screen, leading with: &lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster&lt;/a&gt; and all the blog comments that follow or just write your own comment below&lt;/em&gt;. 

&lt;strong&gt;Do you think that if Kevin Rudd were to promise to remove all advertising and excessive promotions from SBS, and adequately to fund [it] from the public purse with no strings attached the ALP would win every marginal seat in the country?

Do you agree or disagree?
 
Would you vote for a party that made such a promise?&lt;/strong&gt; 

(If you are not sure how to Register or Login to become a ‘blogger’ please read: &lt;em&gt;“How To Browse This Web Site, Register &amp; Comment”&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;&quot;How To Register And Become A Blogger On SaveOurSBS&quot;&lt;/em&gt; which you will find about half way down the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Home Page: www.SaveOurSBS.org&lt;/a&gt; then return here to write your commnet). 

&lt;strong&gt;Would you vote for a party that promised to fully fund SBS and stop the advertising?&lt;/strong&gt;

Write your comment below. 


 

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You can read the full Post from the top of the screen, leading with: <a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112" rel="nofollow">“Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster</a> and all the blog comments that follow or just write your own comment below</em>. </p>
<p><strong>Do you think that if Kevin Rudd were to promise to remove all advertising and excessive promotions from SBS, and adequately to fund [it] from the public purse with no strings attached the ALP would win every marginal seat in the country?</p>
<p>Do you agree or disagree?</p>
<p>Would you vote for a party that made such a promise?</strong> </p>
<p>(If you are not sure how to Register or Login to become a ‘blogger’ please read: <em>“How To Browse This Web Site, Register &#038; Comment”</em> and <em>&#8220;How To Register And Become A Blogger On SaveOurSBS&#8221;</em> which you will find about half way down the <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">Home Page: </a><a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> then return here to write your commnet). </p>
<p><strong>Would you vote for a party that promised to fully fund SBS and stop the advertising?</strong></p>
<p>Write your comment below.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Programs That Were Never Meant To Be Interrupted For Advertisements by brianpearson</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/63/comment-page-1#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>brianpearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with every word written by TVwatcher. There is no point in my repeating them. It is sufficient simply to add that they would probably be endorsed by every person who is motivated enough to visit this site (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.SaveOurSBS.org&lt;/a&gt;). 

I would think that a promise by Kevin Rudd to remove political interference, advertising and excessive promotions from the ABC and SBS, and adequately to fund both organizations from the public purse with no strings attached would alone win him enough extra votes to carry &lt;strong&gt;every&lt;/strong&gt; marginal seat in the country.

I hope that the current executives and board of SBS will be sent packing as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with every word written by TVwatcher. There is no point in my repeating them. It is sufficient simply to add that they would probably be endorsed by every person who is motivated enough to visit this site (<a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a>). </p>
<p>I would think that a promise by Kevin Rudd to remove political interference, advertising and excessive promotions from the ABC and SBS, and adequately to fund both organizations from the public purse with no strings attached would alone win him enough extra votes to carry <strong>every</strong> marginal seat in the country.</p>
<p>I hope that the current executives and board of SBS will be sent packing as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster by brianpearson</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112/comment-page-1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>brianpearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with every word written by &lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comment-42&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TVwatcher&lt;/a&gt; [above]. There is no point in my repeating them. It is sufficient simply to add that they would probably be endorsed by every person who is motivated enough to visit this site (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.SaveOurSBS.org&lt;/a&gt;). 

I would think that a promise by Kevin Rudd to remove political interference, advertising and excessive promotions from the ABC and SBS, and adequately to fund both organizations from the public purse with no strings attached would alone win him enough extra votes to carry &lt;strong&gt;every&lt;/strong&gt; marginal seat in the country.

I hope that the current executives and board of SBS will be sent packing as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with every word written by <a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comment-42" rel="nofollow">TVwatcher</a> [above]. There is no point in my repeating them. It is sufficient simply to add that they would probably be endorsed by every person who is motivated enough to visit this site (<a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a>). </p>
<p>I would think that a promise by Kevin Rudd to remove political interference, advertising and excessive promotions from the ABC and SBS, and adequately to fund both organizations from the public purse with no strings attached would alone win him enough extra votes to carry <strong>every</strong> marginal seat in the country.</p>
<p>I hope that the current executives and board of SBS will be sent packing as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Programs That Were Never Meant To Be Interrupted For Advertisements by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/63/comment-page-1#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&quot;            target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&lt;/a&gt;). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.


It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. 

The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. 

I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.

The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. 

Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?

There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.

I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV. 

Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. 

By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#039;s their station not ours. 

I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1"            target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv&#8211;radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a>). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.</p>
<p>It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. </p>
<p>The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. </p>
<p>I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.</p>
<p>The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. </p>
<p>Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?</p>
<p>There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.</p>
<p>I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV. </p>
<p>Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. </p>
<p>By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#8217;s their station not ours. </p>
<p>I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&quot;            target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&lt;/a&gt;). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.


It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. 

The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. 

I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.

The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. 

Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?

There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.

I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV.  

Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. 

By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#039;s their station not ours. 

I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1"            target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv&#8211;radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a>). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.</p>
<p>It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. </p>
<p>The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. </p>
<p>I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.</p>
<p>The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. </p>
<p>Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?</p>
<p>There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.</p>
<p>I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV.  </p>
<p>Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. </p>
<p>By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#8217;s their station not ours. </p>
<p>I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;SBS debate: 4th commercial network?&#8221; by Quentin Dempster by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/126/comment-page-1#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&quot;            target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&lt;/a&gt;). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.

It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. 

The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. 

I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.

The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. 

Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?

There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.

I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV.  

Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. 

By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#039;s their station not ours. 

I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1"            target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv&#8211;radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a>). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.</p>
<p>It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. </p>
<p>The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. </p>
<p>I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.</p>
<p>The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. </p>
<p>Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?</p>
<p>There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.</p>
<p>I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV.  </p>
<p>Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. </p>
<p>By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#8217;s their station not ours. </p>
<p>I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112/comment-page-1#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&quot;            target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&lt;/a&gt;). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.


It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. 

The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. 

I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.

The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. 

Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?

There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.

I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV. 

Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. 

By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#039;s their station not ours. 

I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1"            target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv&#8211;radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a>). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.</p>
<p>It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. </p>
<p>The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. </p>
<p>I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.</p>
<p>The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. </p>
<p>Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?</p>
<p>There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.</p>
<p>I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV. </p>
<p>Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. </p>
<p>By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#8217;s their station not ours. </p>
<p>I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;We Don&#8217;t Believe You Shaun&#8221; by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/123/comment-page-1#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&quot;            target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1&lt;/a&gt;). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.


It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. 

The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. 

I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.

The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. 

Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?

There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.

I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV.  

Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. 

By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#039;s their station not ours. 

I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an interview with George Negus, presenter of SBS Dateline in The Age on-line (<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv--radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1"            target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/tv&#8211;radio/negus-fumes-over-sbs-criticism/2007/09/05/1188783247452.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a>). I was very disappointed in his attitude about the commercialisation of SBS. However I haven’t seen Dateline for a while. I more or less stopped watching it when SBS began interrupting it for commercial breaks. Probably the quality of the actual program content of Dateline might remain high but I am not prepared to be sold out by Shaun Brown to those dam annoying interruptions for the commercials. From reading the interview with Mr Negus in The Age it seems that he does not think that SBS has been dumbed down or at least he does not know what is meant by the phrase “dumbing down” and he asked “What does it actually mean?” I wonder if George might have missed the point.</p>
<p>It’s not just the quality of some of the programs that SBS has dumbed down SBS has also been dumbed down by the mere fact that they now interrupt all the TV programs with commercials. It’s unbearable. </p>
<p>The changes made at the start of this year to World News 6:30 edition – the silly social chit chat and the forced smiles that the presenters seemed to have been told to do; the Movie Show being cut from a quality half hour show to an insulting 12 minute fill in type show being not much more than an advertorial for the program’s web site which is so blatantly cluttered with ads it is actually unreadable. </p>
<p>I stopped watching World News 6:30 edition a while back. I gave the Movie Show a go for a while after Margaret &amp; David left but when SBS degenerated it into a fill in show I gave up. Now I find I am watching less and less SBS and more and more ABC.</p>
<p>The overall program line-up is just not as good as it used to be either. It all seemed to begin with the introduction of that very commercial looking program, the Iron Chef. They don’t even subtitle it. It was barely bearable when there no ad breaks in it. Now we have to put up not just with the added hype and annoyance of ad interruptions but also with American dubbed voices instead of SBS subtitles! How cheap and commercial looking and sounding can you get? The recipes might be good but the way SBS presents the Iron Chef has turned me off. </p>
<p>Where’s the opera? Where are the arts type programs? Has SBS dumped these forever?</p>
<p>There is now a long list of programs that are just have either been removed, buried in the wrong time slot late at night or are just plain crappy. I think SBS have lost the plot if they want to appeal to a wider audience. I thought that was what the other TV channels were supposed to do, not SBS.</p>
<p>I really feel quite upset that a handful of people have ‘stolen’ my SBS from us, the public. I don’t care if I’m accused of being elitist. So what? What’s wrong with being elitist anyway? We have boutique clothing shops and other elite things in life. I don’t want to watch crappy commercial type TV.  </p>
<p>Even the quality of the ads on SBS now looks crappy too. The ads on SBS used to be of a higher quality. They were soft sell art style type ads that blended in between programs. Not anymore. </p>
<p>By the way: I did not switch off SBS when it used to run the advertisements between the programs only. Did Shaun Brown ever provide any proof that that is what the viewers did or is it just that the advertisers will pay more to interrupt a program? Sounds like we viewers have been sold out to the advertisers. Now it&#8217;s their station not ours. </p>
<p>I used to enjoy SBS. In my opinion Shaun Brown and the SBS Board have a lot to answer for. I want them to hand back our SBS so it is run the way it used to be.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by Derek Kell</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Kell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We started watching SBS on the first day of its transmission.  Nearly all the programmes at that time were sourced from overseas and carried subtitles, but they were really interesting programmes.  SBS transmitted on channel 0 in the VHF band in those days. In our part of Sydney the reception was very weak resulting in an unsatisfactory picture which at times was quite difficult to watch.  Sometimes we would get a headache from squinting at the subtitles, but we persisted anyway because the programmes were so good.  I found the films, especially the ones from France, so very enjoyable.  After a while we decided to buy a UHF television in an attempt to get a better picture.  This purchase was made solely for the benefit of watching SBS television.    Unfortunately it didn’t make a lot of difference so we invested in a better aerial.  No improvement.  Next a higher mast and a new coax cable were installed.  The picture was slightly better but still not as good as the other channels on the VHF bands.  Somebody advised us that a signal amplifier might do the trick.  The ones we tried only seemed to amplify the interference, so they were discarded.  We were resigned to the fact that SBS was always going to have an inferior reception.  But we continued to watch it in this condition for many years.  We thought SBS programming was wonderful.

Then along came digital TV.  We purchased a set top box.  And for the first time we could see SBS properly!!  O joy!

Shortly after that, however, the French films, in fact most of the films, just disappeared.  It was like we were being punished for enjoying something so much.  It was like it was too good to last.

When we, the general public - the tax payers funding 80% of his [SBS] station, had the “cheek” to complain that our films have been taken away Mr Shaun Brown resorted to name-calling. He spoke at the National Press Cub. Those at the top of SBS have called us elitist and they don&#039;t want to cater for elitists. Mr Brown wants us to watch the advertisement-and-promo-interrupted-rubbish he puts on because it suits the advertisers.

Mr Brown doesn’t seem to care about the time, effort and expense that I, and thousands of people like me, went to, to receive an SBS signal in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We started watching SBS on the first day of its transmission.  Nearly all the programmes at that time were sourced from overseas and carried subtitles, but they were really interesting programmes.  SBS transmitted on channel 0 in the VHF band in those days. In our part of Sydney the reception was very weak resulting in an unsatisfactory picture which at times was quite difficult to watch.  Sometimes we would get a headache from squinting at the subtitles, but we persisted anyway because the programmes were so good.  I found the films, especially the ones from France, so very enjoyable.  After a while we decided to buy a UHF television in an attempt to get a better picture.  This purchase was made solely for the benefit of watching SBS television.    Unfortunately it didn’t make a lot of difference so we invested in a better aerial.  No improvement.  Next a higher mast and a new coax cable were installed.  The picture was slightly better but still not as good as the other channels on the VHF bands.  Somebody advised us that a signal amplifier might do the trick.  The ones we tried only seemed to amplify the interference, so they were discarded.  We were resigned to the fact that SBS was always going to have an inferior reception.  But we continued to watch it in this condition for many years.  We thought SBS programming was wonderful.</p>
<p>Then along came digital TV.  We purchased a set top box.  And for the first time we could see SBS properly!!  O joy!</p>
<p>Shortly after that, however, the French films, in fact most of the films, just disappeared.  It was like we were being punished for enjoying something so much.  It was like it was too good to last.</p>
<p>When we, the general public &#8211; the tax payers funding 80% of his [SBS] station, had the “cheek” to complain that our films have been taken away Mr Shaun Brown resorted to name-calling. He spoke at the National Press Cub. Those at the top of SBS have called us elitist and they don&#8217;t want to cater for elitists. Mr Brown wants us to watch the advertisement-and-promo-interrupted-rubbish he puts on because it suits the advertisers.</p>
<p>Mr Brown doesn’t seem to care about the time, effort and expense that I, and thousands of people like me, went to, to receive an SBS signal in the first place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;We Don&#8217;t Believe You Shaun&#8221; by Derek Kell</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/123/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Kell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We started watching SBS on the first day of its transmission. Nearly all the programmes at that time were sourced from overseas and carried subtitles, but they were really interesting programmes. SBS transmitted on channel 0 in the VHF band in those days. In our part of Sydney the reception was very weak resulting in an unsatisfactory picture which at times was quite difficult to watch. Sometimes we would get a headache from squinting at the subtitles, but we persisted anyway because the programmes were so good. I found the films, especially the ones from France, so very enjoyable. After a while we decided to buy a UHF television in an attempt to get a better picture. This purchase was made solely for the benefit of watching SBS television. Unfortunately it didn’t make a lot of difference so we invested in a better aerial. No improvement. Next a higher mast and a new coax cable were installed. The picture was slightly better but still not as good as the other channels on the VHF bands. Somebody advised us that a signal amplifier might do the trick. The ones we tried only seemed to amplify the interference, so they were discarded. We were resigned to the fact that SBS was always going to have an inferior reception. But we continued to watch it in this condition for many years. We thought SBS programming was wonderful.

Then along came digital TV. We purchased a set top box. And for the first time we could see SBS properly!! O joy!

Shortly after that, however, the French films, in fact most of the films, just disappeared. It was like we were being punished for enjoying something so much. It was like it was too good to last.

When we, the general public - the tax payers funding 80% of his [SBS] station, had the “cheek” to complain that our films have been taken away Mr Shaun Brown resorted to name-calling. He spoke at the National Press Cub. Those at the top of SBS have called us elitist and they don&#039;t want to cater for elitists. Mr Brown wants us to watch the advertisement-and-promo-interrupted-rubbish he puts on because it suits the advertisers.

Mr Brown doesn’t seem to care about the time, effort and expense that I, and thousands of people like me, went to, to receive an SBS signal in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We started watching SBS on the first day of its transmission. Nearly all the programmes at that time were sourced from overseas and carried subtitles, but they were really interesting programmes. SBS transmitted on channel 0 in the VHF band in those days. In our part of Sydney the reception was very weak resulting in an unsatisfactory picture which at times was quite difficult to watch. Sometimes we would get a headache from squinting at the subtitles, but we persisted anyway because the programmes were so good. I found the films, especially the ones from France, so very enjoyable. After a while we decided to buy a UHF television in an attempt to get a better picture. This purchase was made solely for the benefit of watching SBS television. Unfortunately it didn’t make a lot of difference so we invested in a better aerial. No improvement. Next a higher mast and a new coax cable were installed. The picture was slightly better but still not as good as the other channels on the VHF bands. Somebody advised us that a signal amplifier might do the trick. The ones we tried only seemed to amplify the interference, so they were discarded. We were resigned to the fact that SBS was always going to have an inferior reception. But we continued to watch it in this condition for many years. We thought SBS programming was wonderful.</p>
<p>Then along came digital TV. We purchased a set top box. And for the first time we could see SBS properly!! O joy!</p>
<p>Shortly after that, however, the French films, in fact most of the films, just disappeared. It was like we were being punished for enjoying something so much. It was like it was too good to last.</p>
<p>When we, the general public &#8211; the tax payers funding 80% of his [SBS] station, had the “cheek” to complain that our films have been taken away Mr Shaun Brown resorted to name-calling. He spoke at the National Press Cub. Those at the top of SBS have called us elitist and they don&#8217;t want to cater for elitists. Mr Brown wants us to watch the advertisement-and-promo-interrupted-rubbish he puts on because it suits the advertisers.</p>
<p>Mr Brown doesn’t seem to care about the time, effort and expense that I, and thousands of people like me, went to, to receive an SBS signal in the first place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by Brett Ebbeck</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Ebbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBS introduced sponsorship in 1990 and stated that it would not lead to commercial advertising on its television channel. Then in 1991 it started inserting commercial advertising between programmes.

It has now started ruining its television programmes by interrupting them with advertising breaks.

For a while now the ABC has been interrupting radio programmes with non-paid-advertising or promos. Are these ABC programme promos intended to soften up the ABC listeners to future paid-advertising breaks in the programmes?

Eventually, just as sponsorship on the SBS ended up as commercial advertising interruptions to television programmes, will the programme advertising or promos make way for full commercial advertising on ABC radio? 

Both the SBS and the ABC are Government (tax payer) owned public broadcasters, and thus should be fully financed by the Government.

Despite the denial by the Managing Director, Mr. Shaun Brown, the SBS is definitely being dumbed. With commercial advertising on its channel, it can not be but dumbed down. 


&lt;em&gt;Ed: The Act of parliament that establishes the ABC specifically bans it from broadcasting advertisements on its radio or television services. At this stage no mention is made of the ABC internet services. Unlike the ABC, since 1991 the SBS Act never banned advertising on SBS, although SBS then indicated that it might like to seek sponsorship. For more details about this please read &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/faq-sbs-advertising-legislation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAQ SBS Advertising &amp; Legislation&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/faq-sbs-funding/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAQ SBS Funding&lt;/a&gt;&quot; on this web site&lt;/em&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBS introduced sponsorship in 1990 and stated that it would not lead to commercial advertising on its television channel. Then in 1991 it started inserting commercial advertising between programmes.</p>
<p>It has now started ruining its television programmes by interrupting them with advertising breaks.</p>
<p>For a while now the ABC has been interrupting radio programmes with non-paid-advertising or promos. Are these ABC programme promos intended to soften up the ABC listeners to future paid-advertising breaks in the programmes?</p>
<p>Eventually, just as sponsorship on the SBS ended up as commercial advertising interruptions to television programmes, will the programme advertising or promos make way for full commercial advertising on ABC radio? </p>
<p>Both the SBS and the ABC are Government (tax payer) owned public broadcasters, and thus should be fully financed by the Government.</p>
<p>Despite the denial by the Managing Director, Mr. Shaun Brown, the SBS is definitely being dumbed. With commercial advertising on its channel, it can not be but dumbed down. </p>
<p><em>Ed: The Act of parliament that establishes the ABC specifically bans it from broadcasting advertisements on its radio or television services. At this stage no mention is made of the ABC internet services. Unlike the ABC, since 1991 the SBS Act never banned advertising on SBS, although SBS then indicated that it might like to seek sponsorship. For more details about this please read &#8220;<a href="http://saveoursbs.org/faq-sbs-advertising-legislation/" rel="nofollow">FAQ SBS Advertising &#038; Legislation</a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://saveoursbs.org/faq-sbs-funding/" rel="nofollow">FAQ SBS Funding</a>&#8221; on this web site</em>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Petition Progress by SaveOurSBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/116/comment-page-1#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveOurSBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Administrator of the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://petition.saveoursbs.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No Ads on SBS petition&lt;/a&gt;&quot; has provided some statistics to Save Our SBS.

As of 29 August 2007 the petition clock counter hit 3600 signatories. Of those 51% of the people who signed had post codes from NSW. 14% of those that signed were from Victoria, 12% from Queensland, 13% from SA, and the balance from other parts of Australia. The first person signed in July 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Administrator of the &#8220;<a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">No Ads on SBS petition</a>&#8221; has provided some statistics to Save Our SBS.</p>
<p>As of 29 August 2007 the petition clock counter hit 3600 signatories. Of those 51% of the people who signed had post codes from NSW. 14% of those that signed were from Victoria, 12% from Queensland, 13% from SA, and the balance from other parts of Australia. The first person signed in July 2007.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by reica</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>reica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We fully support Mary Kostakidis in her stand against the commercialisation of our SBS. Previously our favourite news service, SBS news is now in the dog box as far as we are concerned.

Remove the ads and Grant too. Come back Mary!!

R &amp; C Mann, Gilston, Qld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We fully support Mary Kostakidis in her stand against the commercialisation of our SBS. Previously our favourite news service, SBS news is now in the dog box as far as we are concerned.</p>
<p>Remove the ads and Grant too. Come back Mary!!</p>
<p>R &amp; C Mann, Gilston, Qld</p>
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		<title>Comment on Industrial Issues At SBS by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/121/comment-page-1#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  Kostakidis departure has highlighted some of the serious problems at SBS that have had a direct effect on SBS employees. It also brought to the attention of the wider community the attitude of Shaun Brown, Managing Director of SBS and that of the SBS Board. On 24 August 2007, the Community &amp; Public Sector Union, the union that represents a vast number commonwealth public servants and employees in other sectors, published on their internet site the outcome of a CPSU meeting that was held in response to recent events at SBS. The union&#039;s internet site reported that meeting of CPSU members called for the following: 

&lt;em&gt;1. For members to affirm your commitment to the SBS Charter. 
 
2. To affirm your commitment to pursuing and preserving the independence and integrity of Australia&#039;s only multicultural broadcaster. 

3. And to affirm the SBS values of &quot;open discussion and constructive debate&quot; and the &quot;fostering of honest, trusting and mutually respectful relationships&quot; AND commit to provide industrial support to any staff member who may be bullied, intimidated, silenced or marginalised for practicing these values at SBS. 
&lt;/em&gt; 
The union called on &quot;&lt;em&gt;SBS management and the SBS Board to spell out how they will reverse the changes that have taken place at SBS over the past several years which have actively inhibited the realization of these values of openness and constructive debate&lt;/em&gt;&quot;. They called on &quot;&lt;em&gt;SBS to demonstrate to staff how these new &quot;purposes and values&quot; will be met in a truly meaningful way at SBS&lt;/em&gt;&quot;. 

And the CPSU also called on  &quot;&lt;em&gt;all SBS employees to join the campaign to Save our SBS and to encourage their friends, family and work colleagues to do the same. Go to www.saveoursbs.org&lt;/em&gt;&quot; concluded the CPSU internet site report. The full story from the CPSU site can be read on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cpsu.org.au/agency/news/2657.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CPSU web site&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  Kostakidis departure has highlighted some of the serious problems at SBS that have had a direct effect on SBS employees. It also brought to the attention of the wider community the attitude of Shaun Brown, Managing Director of SBS and that of the SBS Board. On 24 August 2007, the Community &#038; Public Sector Union, the union that represents a vast number commonwealth public servants and employees in other sectors, published on their internet site the outcome of a CPSU meeting that was held in response to recent events at SBS. The union&#8217;s internet site reported that meeting of CPSU members called for the following: </p>
<p><em>1. For members to affirm your commitment to the SBS Charter. </p>
<p>2. To affirm your commitment to pursuing and preserving the independence and integrity of Australia&#8217;s only multicultural broadcaster. </p>
<p>3. And to affirm the SBS values of &#8220;open discussion and constructive debate&#8221; and the &#8220;fostering of honest, trusting and mutually respectful relationships&#8221; AND commit to provide industrial support to any staff member who may be bullied, intimidated, silenced or marginalised for practicing these values at SBS.<br />
</em><br />
The union called on &#8220;<em>SBS management and the SBS Board to spell out how they will reverse the changes that have taken place at SBS over the past several years which have actively inhibited the realization of these values of openness and constructive debate</em>&#8220;. They called on &#8220;<em>SBS to demonstrate to staff how these new &#8220;purposes and values&#8221; will be met in a truly meaningful way at SBS</em>&#8220;. </p>
<p>And the CPSU also called on  &#8220;<em>all SBS employees to join the campaign to Save our SBS and to encourage their friends, family and work colleagues to do the same. Go to <a href="http://www.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveoursbs.org</a></em>&#8221; concluded the CPSU internet site report. The full story from the CPSU site can be read on the <a href="http://www.cpsu.org.au/agency/news/2657.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">CPSU web site</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by kay davis</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>kay davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After many years of viewing SBS, I am now utterly disappointed at the content of programs.  Add commercials to this unsatisfactory mix and the result is a complete turn-off.

First came a reduction in movies and other entertainment, particularly on weekends (unless you care to wait until 11.30pm to watch something very ordinary), then the commercials and last but not least, sweeping changes to the evening news which meant the demise of Australia&#039;s foremost sports program. In comes Stan Grant, straight for chck&#039;n&#039;noodle news, and the whole character of an outstanding news service changes.  

Mary Kostakidis and her team provided an outstanding program.  

Ratings are unlikely to ever increase when the viewer demographic SBS management hope to entice is not in the least interested, and the already loyal viewers switch off altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After many years of viewing SBS, I am now utterly disappointed at the content of programs.  Add commercials to this unsatisfactory mix and the result is a complete turn-off.</p>
<p>First came a reduction in movies and other entertainment, particularly on weekends (unless you care to wait until 11.30pm to watch something very ordinary), then the commercials and last but not least, sweeping changes to the evening news which meant the demise of Australia&#8217;s foremost sports program. In comes Stan Grant, straight for chck&#8217;n'noodle news, and the whole character of an outstanding news service changes.  </p>
<p>Mary Kostakidis and her team provided an outstanding program.  </p>
<p>Ratings are unlikely to ever increase when the viewer demographic SBS management hope to entice is not in the least interested, and the already loyal viewers switch off altogether.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The following are just a few of the comments sent in to www.SaveOurSBS.org on 24 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.

Message: BRING BACK MARY. Where is the campaign for Mary - without doubt Australia&#039;s most professional news reader. (&lt;em&gt;L H submitted this comment on 24 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;) 

&lt;strong&gt;EDITORS NOTE TO THE ABOVE QUESTION&lt;/strong&gt;:

There is a separate petition in support of Mary Kostakidas. That other petition was not written nor organised SaveOurSBS however we agree with the sentiments expressed in that petition to support Mary Kostakidis. If you have not signed our petition, essentially over very similar issues, i.e., the commercialisation at SBS please do so. You may want to sign both petitions    

http://petition.saveoursbs.org   THIS LINK IS TO THE OFFICIAL “NO ADVERTISEMENTS OR SPONSORSHIP ON SBS.”  AMONG OTHER THINGS IT CALLS FOR A CHANGE IN LEGISLATION AND WAS WRITTEN BY US. Please sign it. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marykostakidis/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marykostakidis/&lt;/a&gt;   THIS LINK IS TO A PETITION IN SUPPORT OF MARY KOSTAKIDIS. WE DID NOT WRITE IT. IT WAS WRITTEN BY ANOTHER GROUP NOT SaveOurSBS. WE ARE NOT THE ORGANISER NOR THE SPONSOR OF THAT PETITION. 

Message: Just noticed a quote or at least an attribution in the Thursday edition of The Australian 23/8 that Shaun Brown stated when saying that it would not be a good idea to merge ABC and SBS because in comparison with the ABC,  that SBS was a &#039;lean and sleek&#039; organization.  Well, to anyone with a basic understanding of the English tongue, it cant be both.  Is this the level of English that we expect from a top media exec, or the bumbling of a used car salesman determined to destroy something that has been brilliant. (&lt;em&gt;J L submitted this comment on 24 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;)

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The above are just a few of the comments sent in to www.SaveOurSBS.org on 24 August 2007. We were not able to publish all the comments received due to the enormous numbers received. The comments above are fairly representative of most of the types of comments received that day. We prefer that people who want to make a comment about Mary Kostakidis do so, not by emailing us, but rather, by clicking on the Register link in the far right column instead. However please read our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Home Page&lt;/a&gt; first to find out how to become a blogger and what is involved. Some of the comments above were edited by us for clarity. Ed&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. 

Sign the petition to protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public broadcaster funded fully by government. Click http://petition.saveoursbs.org and wait while you are redirected to the petition server.

Post your blog comments below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>The following are just a few of the comments sent in to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> on 24 August 2007</em></strong>.</p>
<p>Message: BRING BACK MARY. Where is the campaign for Mary &#8211; without doubt Australia&#8217;s most professional news reader. (<em>L H submitted this comment on 24 August 2007</em>) </p>
<p><strong>EDITORS NOTE TO THE ABOVE QUESTION</strong>:</p>
<p>There is a separate petition in support of Mary Kostakidas. That other petition was not written nor organised SaveOurSBS however we agree with the sentiments expressed in that petition to support Mary Kostakidis. If you have not signed our petition, essentially over very similar issues, i.e., the commercialisation at SBS please do so. You may want to sign both petitions    </p>
<p><a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://petition.saveoursbs.org</a>   THIS LINK IS TO THE OFFICIAL “NO ADVERTISEMENTS OR SPONSORSHIP ON SBS.”  AMONG OTHER THINGS IT CALLS FOR A CHANGE IN LEGISLATION AND WAS WRITTEN BY US. Please sign it. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marykostakidis/" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marykostakidis/</a>   THIS LINK IS TO A PETITION IN SUPPORT OF MARY KOSTAKIDIS. WE DID NOT WRITE IT. IT WAS WRITTEN BY ANOTHER GROUP NOT SaveOurSBS. WE ARE NOT THE ORGANISER NOR THE SPONSOR OF THAT PETITION. </p>
<p>Message: Just noticed a quote or at least an attribution in the Thursday edition of The Australian 23/8 that Shaun Brown stated when saying that it would not be a good idea to merge ABC and SBS because in comparison with the ABC,  that SBS was a &#8216;lean and sleek&#8217; organization.  Well, to anyone with a basic understanding of the English tongue, it cant be both.  Is this the level of English that we expect from a top media exec, or the bumbling of a used car salesman determined to destroy something that has been brilliant. (<em>J L submitted this comment on 24 August 2007</em>)</p>
<p><strong><em>The above are just a few of the comments sent in to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> on 24 August 2007. We were not able to publish all the comments received due to the enormous numbers received. The comments above are fairly representative of most of the types of comments received that day. We prefer that people who want to make a comment about Mary Kostakidis do so, not by emailing us, but rather, by clicking on the Register link in the far right column instead. However please read our <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">Home Page</a> first to find out how to become a blogger and what is involved. Some of the comments above were edited by us for clarity. Ed</em></strong>. </p>
<p>Sign the petition to protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public broadcaster funded fully by government. Click <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://petition.saveoursbs.org</a> and wait while you are redirected to the petition server.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster by elizabetho</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112/comment-page-1#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>elizabetho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I sent to the SBS Board following recent events = as well as signing the &lt;a href=&quot;http://petition.saveoursbs.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;petition&lt;/a&gt;, send off a message to their comment site -  

&lt;em&gt;To: comments@sbs.com.au 

Subject: Mary Kostakidis 

Hi - my name is Elizabeth xxxx and I&#039;d like to offer a comment on recent events at SBS. I agree with Mary and I have &quot;walked&quot; too, no longer watching SBS as much because of the advertisements that interrupt even the most serious and sensitive of programme material. 

 
I don&#039;t know where the present Board and its CEO got their brief to change SBS this way, particularly dumbing down the News with the ridiculous use of 2 presenters playing at being cheery friends. It’s an insult to the viewers and all these changes show with what contempt the Board and senior management hold the viewers. Australia needs another vacuous &quot;commercial&quot; TV channel like it needs a hole in the head. The complex structure and culture that was SBS has been taken over and trashed by vandals - what a great legacy for the board members to be remembered for. Thanks a lot.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I sent to the SBS Board following recent events = as well as signing the <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">petition</a>, send off a message to their comment site &#8211;  </p>
<p><em>To: <a href="mailto:comments@sbs.com.au">comments@sbs.com.au</a> </p>
<p>Subject: Mary Kostakidis </p>
<p>Hi &#8211; my name is Elizabeth xxxx and I&#8217;d like to offer a comment on recent events at SBS. I agree with Mary and I have &#8220;walked&#8221; too, no longer watching SBS as much because of the advertisements that interrupt even the most serious and sensitive of programme material. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where the present Board and its CEO got their brief to change SBS this way, particularly dumbing down the News with the ridiculous use of 2 presenters playing at being cheery friends. It’s an insult to the viewers and all these changes show with what contempt the Board and senior management hold the viewers. Australia needs another vacuous &#8220;commercial&#8221; TV channel like it needs a hole in the head. The complex structure and culture that was SBS has been taken over and trashed by vandals &#8211; what a great legacy for the board members to be remembered for. Thanks a lot.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The following are just a few of the comments sent in to www.SaveOurSBS.org on 23 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.

Message: I would like to remark that the dumbing down of the evening news is the reason I rarely watch it now. (&lt;em&gt;J H submitted this comment on 23 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;)

Message: I am totally incensed that the management of SBS permitted the ratings, that is the number of people watching at any one time, to fall. Indicating that the high quality of &quot;different&quot; material available on SBS had been reduced and the product line-up &quot;dumbed down&quot; in an attempt to match commercial television. The news that we, and countless friends of ours, used to watch nightly, has been so altered and destroyed by its commercialisation and slickness that we no longer watch it. Mary should be returned as before as a half hour show, get rid of the ads at half time, if we have to have ads, and preferably rid of them totally, remove Grant to some other show that I will not watch and make the SBS as it was, an entertaining, professional friendly channel for the average multiracial Australian. It is inconceivable that Mary was given such short shrift when it was she, amongst others, who increased the ratings  (&lt;em&gt;I C-S submitted this comment on 23 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;) 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The above are just a few of the comments sent in to www.SaveOurSBS.org on 23 August 2007. We were not able to publish all the comments received due to the enormous numbers received. The comments above are fairly representative of most of the types of comments received that day. We prefer that people who want to make a comment about Mary Kostakidis do so, not by emailing us, but rather, by clicking on the Register link in the far right column instead. However please read our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Home Page&lt;/a&gt; first to find out how to become a blogger and what is involved. Some of the comments above were edited by us for clarity. Ed&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. 

Sign the petition to protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public broadcaster funded fully by government. Click http://petition.saveoursbs.org and wait while you are redirected to the petition server.

Post your blog comments below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>The following are just a few of the comments sent in to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> on 23 August 2007</em></strong>.</p>
<p>Message: I would like to remark that the dumbing down of the evening news is the reason I rarely watch it now. (<em>J H submitted this comment on 23 August 2007</em>)</p>
<p>Message: I am totally incensed that the management of SBS permitted the ratings, that is the number of people watching at any one time, to fall. Indicating that the high quality of &#8220;different&#8221; material available on SBS had been reduced and the product line-up &#8220;dumbed down&#8221; in an attempt to match commercial television. The news that we, and countless friends of ours, used to watch nightly, has been so altered and destroyed by its commercialisation and slickness that we no longer watch it. Mary should be returned as before as a half hour show, get rid of the ads at half time, if we have to have ads, and preferably rid of them totally, remove Grant to some other show that I will not watch and make the SBS as it was, an entertaining, professional friendly channel for the average multiracial Australian. It is inconceivable that Mary was given such short shrift when it was she, amongst others, who increased the ratings  (<em>I C-S submitted this comment on 23 August 2007</em>) </p>
<p><em><strong>The above are just a few of the comments sent in to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> on 23 August 2007. We were not able to publish all the comments received due to the enormous numbers received. The comments above are fairly representative of most of the types of comments received that day. We prefer that people who want to make a comment about Mary Kostakidis do so, not by emailing us, but rather, by clicking on the Register link in the far right column instead. However please read our <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">Home Page</a> first to find out how to become a blogger and what is involved. Some of the comments above were edited by us for clarity. Ed</strong></em><em></em>. </p>
<p>Sign the petition to protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public broadcaster funded fully by government. Click <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://petition.saveoursbs.org</a> and wait while you are redirected to the petition server.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Petition Progress by SaveOurSBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/116/comment-page-1#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveOurSBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The response to the petition over the last few days has been amazing, nearly, 500 per day.  From comments received (some posted elsewhere on this site), clearly the Mary Kostakidis issue strikes a nerve in many SBS viewers.  The message is that loyal viewers are &lt;em&gt;not happy!&lt;/em&gt;

Keep those signatures and comments coming, and we will be able to demonstrate the need for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The response to the petition over the last few days has been amazing, nearly, 500 per day.  From comments received (some posted elsewhere on this site), clearly the Mary Kostakidis issue strikes a nerve in many SBS viewers.  The message is that loyal viewers are <em>not happy!</em></p>
<p>Keep those signatures and comments coming, and we will be able to demonstrate the need for a change.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, everything that Shaun Brown the CEO has done to SBS has dumbed it down and made it less watchable and less multicultural. The world news, once such a splendid example of journalism which kept us in touch with serious news around the globe, has come to resemble the satiric version of tabloid trash established by the carpetbagger in &quot;Newsfront&quot;, with constant grinning to camera and to the unnecessary additional reader. 

I want to see and hear Mary Kostakidis and Lee Lin Chin and serious presenters like Anton Enus. It is reasonable to train some new journalists, but I do not want to see MK relegated to the rubbish items about cute puppies.

I will not watch the news again in its current format. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, everything that Shaun Brown the CEO has done to SBS has dumbed it down and made it less watchable and less multicultural. The world news, once such a splendid example of journalism which kept us in touch with serious news around the globe, has come to resemble the satiric version of tabloid trash established by the carpetbagger in &#8220;Newsfront&#8221;, with constant grinning to camera and to the unnecessary additional reader. </p>
<p>I want to see and hear Mary Kostakidis and Lee Lin Chin and serious presenters like Anton Enus. It is reasonable to train some new journalists, but I do not want to see MK relegated to the rubbish items about cute puppies.</p>
<p>I will not watch the news again in its current format.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by LJB</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>LJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write to express support for Mary Kostakidis.  An intelligent and engaging newsreader, Mary Kostakidis represented the best of SBS.  It has been distressing to watch SBS abandoning core brand values in an attempt to woo a younger audience.  As a broadcaster it can no longer be relied upon to give intelligent comment; in its expanded format, SBS news has narrowed its focus.  Coupled with the decline in news quality from the ABC, increasingly I turn to the competition - the BBC World Service.  I am greatly saddened by the loss of such as valuable service as the SBS was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write to express support for Mary Kostakidis.  An intelligent and engaging newsreader, Mary Kostakidis represented the best of SBS.  It has been distressing to watch SBS abandoning core brand values in an attempt to woo a younger audience.  As a broadcaster it can no longer be relied upon to give intelligent comment; in its expanded format, SBS news has narrowed its focus.  Coupled with the decline in news quality from the ABC, increasingly I turn to the competition &#8211; the BBC World Service.  I am greatly saddened by the loss of such as valuable service as the SBS was.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The following are just a few of the comments sent in to www.SaveOurSBS.org on 22 August 2007. 
&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Message: As an ABC journalist and radio news reader, I&#039;d like to voice my dismay over the treatment of Mary Kostakidis. I find it disgraceful that the doyenne of Australian newsreaders has been forced out by a coterie of commercial interests, management and in my opinion a pedestrian co-presenter. (&lt;em&gt;A K submitted this comment on 22 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;)

Message: What about another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marykostakidis/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;petition&lt;/a&gt; to bring back Mary Kostakidis. (&lt;em&gt;T B submitted this comment on 22 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;)

Message: Here is a message for Mary Kostakidis: Ever since I first arrived in Australia I&#039;ve admired your appealing, affirmative and often humorous communicating style when presenting the news on SBS. I sincerely hope you achieve what you want for yourself and all your eager fans. All the Best.
PS: I do not watch the news when you are not the news reader. (&lt;em&gt;B P submitted this comment on 22 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;)

Message: I write in support of Mary Kostakidis. She and Lee Lin Chin are the faces and the souls of SBS World News that we all love and respect. The tragedy is that the SBS Board appointed an executive from TVNZ who apparently appointed Stan Grant. Are they in cahoots? We were doing beautifully with Mary in lead role. New Zealand has the civilised world&#039;s worst television. It is unwatchable, commercialised rubbish. It is an affront to the intelligence of the NZ people. For anything extra, in their wisdom (or lack of it) TVNZ, which is supposed to be a public broadcaster, was sold out to commercialism. There is no educational or enlightening content, no analysis, no world news, just &#039;Rush along to the nearest advertiser blahblahblah&#039;. In my opinion, SBS shouldn&#039;t have appointed any executives from TVNZ. Coming to the antipodes from Britain and the BBC and Channel 4 with all their riches of knowledge, information, enlightenment, it had to be Australia with the SBS (particularly Mary) and the ABC rather than the cultural desert of NZ and TVNZ. All you can do there is read books and listen to the radio. We want you back, Mary, to lead the SBS. Tell the SBS executives who came from TVNZ to go home. No wonder there&#039;s distress when a presenter from CNN and an executive from TVNZ muscle in on the sensitively and intelligently run SBS. (&lt;em&gt;V B submitted this comment on 22 August 2007. The original comment was edited by SaveOurSBS. Ed&lt;/em&gt;)

Message: Save Mary Kostakidis!!! (&lt;em&gt;S R submitted this comment on 22 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;) 

Message: Dear SBS, For some time I have been noting with great disappointment the shift of SBS-TV from an erudite independent and factual source of news and world affairs, with an adult and global approach, to a more strident tabloid ‘grab attention and flog it to them’ culture. The hiring of Stan to read (or does he opinionate?) the news is, to me, a stomach-heaving slap. Going so far down market won&#039;t probably gain you much of channel 10&#039;s audience but will certainly lose much of your current and potential viewers. (&lt;em&gt;W W submitted this comment on 22 August 2007. The original comment was edited by SaveOurSBS. Ed&lt;/em&gt;)  

Message: I am just want to say thanks for getting this website up www.SaveOurSBS.org and running and allowing organised opposition to the changes at SBS. We have been committed viewers for many, many years and have always appreciated the professionalism and multicultural approach of SBS. We have also always enjoyed Mary Kostakidis presentation of the news, thoroughly professional and unsensational. Not so now that Stan Grant has joined the news presenting. If he remains and the current commercial approach is unchanged, SBS will have lost another two viewers who are appalled at the commercial appeal to the lowest common denominator. Furthermore, as someone of 59 and my husband 71, we both find it offensive that our age group is considered superfluous to SBS&#039;s viewing requirements and now content is to be aimed at younger viewers. Memo to SBS management - there is a growing, greying population and you ignore us at your peril! Very best wishes to www.SaveOurSBS.org for your success in bringing SBS back to its original charter and to an ethical broadcasting station not obsessed with ratings, age groups and ignoring the ethnic population. Warm regards, (&lt;em&gt;M D &amp; B N submitted this comment on 22 August 2007&lt;/em&gt;)  

&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The above are just a few of the comments sent in to www.SaveOurSBS.org on 22 August 2007. We were not able to publish all the comments received due to the enormous numbers received. The comments above are fairly representative of most of the types of comments received. We prefer that people who want to make a comment about Mary Kostakidis do so, not by emailing us, but rather, by clicking on the Register link in the far right column instead. However please read our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaveOurSBS.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Home Page&lt;/a&gt; first to find out how to become a blogger and what is involved. Some of the comments above were edited by us for clarity. Ed. &lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Sign the petition to protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public broadcaster funded fully by government. Click http://petition.saveoursbs.org and wait while you are redirected to the petition server.

Post your blog comments below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>The following are just a few of the comments sent in to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> on 22 August 2007.<br />
</strong></em></p>
<p>Message: As an ABC journalist and radio news reader, I&#8217;d like to voice my dismay over the treatment of Mary Kostakidis. I find it disgraceful that the doyenne of Australian newsreaders has been forced out by a coterie of commercial interests, management and in my opinion a pedestrian co-presenter. (<em>A K submitted this comment on 22 August 2007</em>)</p>
<p>Message: What about another <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/marykostakidis/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">petition</a> to bring back Mary Kostakidis. (<em>T B submitted this comment on 22 August 2007</em>)</p>
<p>Message: Here is a message for Mary Kostakidis: Ever since I first arrived in Australia I&#8217;ve admired your appealing, affirmative and often humorous communicating style when presenting the news on SBS. I sincerely hope you achieve what you want for yourself and all your eager fans. All the Best.<br />
PS: I do not watch the news when you are not the news reader. (<em>B P submitted this comment on 22 August 2007</em>)</p>
<p>Message: I write in support of Mary Kostakidis. She and Lee Lin Chin are the faces and the souls of SBS World News that we all love and respect. The tragedy is that the SBS Board appointed an executive from TVNZ who apparently appointed Stan Grant. Are they in cahoots? We were doing beautifully with Mary in lead role. New Zealand has the civilised world&#8217;s worst television. It is unwatchable, commercialised rubbish. It is an affront to the intelligence of the NZ people. For anything extra, in their wisdom (or lack of it) TVNZ, which is supposed to be a public broadcaster, was sold out to commercialism. There is no educational or enlightening content, no analysis, no world news, just &#8216;Rush along to the nearest advertiser blahblahblah&#8217;. In my opinion, SBS shouldn&#8217;t have appointed any executives from TVNZ. Coming to the antipodes from Britain and the BBC and Channel 4 with all their riches of knowledge, information, enlightenment, it had to be Australia with the SBS (particularly Mary) and the ABC rather than the cultural desert of NZ and TVNZ. All you can do there is read books and listen to the radio. We want you back, Mary, to lead the SBS. Tell the SBS executives who came from TVNZ to go home. No wonder there&#8217;s distress when a presenter from CNN and an executive from TVNZ muscle in on the sensitively and intelligently run SBS. (<em>V B submitted this comment on 22 August 2007. The original comment was edited by SaveOurSBS. Ed</em>)</p>
<p>Message: Save Mary Kostakidis!!! (<em>S R submitted this comment on 22 August 2007</em>) </p>
<p>Message: Dear SBS, For some time I have been noting with great disappointment the shift of SBS-TV from an erudite independent and factual source of news and world affairs, with an adult and global approach, to a more strident tabloid ‘grab attention and flog it to them’ culture. The hiring of Stan to read (or does he opinionate?) the news is, to me, a stomach-heaving slap. Going so far down market won&#8217;t probably gain you much of channel 10&#8217;s audience but will certainly lose much of your current and potential viewers. (<em>W W submitted this comment on 22 August 2007. The original comment was edited by SaveOurSBS. Ed</em>)  </p>
<p>Message: I am just want to say thanks for getting this website up <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> and running and allowing organised opposition to the changes at SBS. We have been committed viewers for many, many years and have always appreciated the professionalism and multicultural approach of SBS. We have also always enjoyed Mary Kostakidis presentation of the news, thoroughly professional and unsensational. Not so now that Stan Grant has joined the news presenting. If he remains and the current commercial approach is unchanged, SBS will have lost another two viewers who are appalled at the commercial appeal to the lowest common denominator. Furthermore, as someone of 59 and my husband 71, we both find it offensive that our age group is considered superfluous to SBS&#8217;s viewing requirements and now content is to be aimed at younger viewers. Memo to SBS management &#8211; there is a growing, greying population and you ignore us at your peril! Very best wishes to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> for your success in bringing SBS back to its original charter and to an ethical broadcasting station not obsessed with ratings, age groups and ignoring the ethnic population. Warm regards, (<em>M D &#038; B N submitted this comment on 22 August 2007</em>)  </p>
<p><em></em><em><strong>The above are just a few of the comments sent in to <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> on 22 August 2007. We were not able to publish all the comments received due to the enormous numbers received. The comments above are fairly representative of most of the types of comments received. We prefer that people who want to make a comment about Mary Kostakidis do so, not by emailing us, but rather, by clicking on the Register link in the far right column instead. However please read our <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">Home Page</a> first to find out how to become a blogger and what is involved. Some of the comments above were edited by us for clarity. Ed. </strong><br />
</em></p>
<p>Sign the petition to protect SBS, stop the ads and maintain our multicultural public broadcaster funded fully by government. Click <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://petition.saveoursbs.org</a> and wait while you are redirected to the petition server.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mary Kostakidis by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/119/comment-page-1#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read some of the comments about Mary Kostakidis that have been posted at http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59 as well as other comments below.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by xpro</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>xpro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps not bye bye, hopefully just a short interlude.

SBS will only suffer if Mary departs as for years she has been a major draw card with her presentation, demure and such clear diction. Why oh why do they have to spoil it all by introducing Ads, and not well thought out formats. It has been most noticable that Mary was being given the &quot;Short Straw&quot; especially in the news!

I agree....this has gone Far too far!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps not bye bye, hopefully just a short interlude.</p>
<p>SBS will only suffer if Mary departs as for years she has been a major draw card with her presentation, demure and such clear diction. Why oh why do they have to spoil it all by introducing Ads, and not well thought out formats. It has been most noticable that Mary was being given the &#8220;Short Straw&#8221; especially in the news!</p>
<p>I agree&#8230;.this has gone Far too far!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by FDB</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bye bye Mary Kostakidis.

Bummer, this has really gone too far.</description>
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<p>Bummer, this has really gone too far.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Dear SBS: ad breaks just don&#8217;t hold water&#8221; by Michael Shmith by Giacomo</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/113/comment-page-1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Giacomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh dear Michael Shmith 

I share your sentiment that “ad breaks just don’t hold water” and your love it seems of the SBS’s excellent series, Inspector Montalbano. 

Hell hath no fury like an audience spurned!

Giacomo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh dear Michael Shmith </p>
<p>I share your sentiment that “ad breaks just don’t hold water” and your love it seems of the SBS’s excellent series, Inspector Montalbano. </p>
<p>Hell hath no fury like an audience spurned!</p>
<p>Giacomo</p>
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		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>gsutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as conscripted vietnam veteran doing PhD on misinformation/social engineering, i am concerned about corporatisation of SBS - which sees editorial content dictated by advertisers and not necessarily by what is in the public interest. Howard has not been satisfied with loading the ABC board with neo-conservatives, now the agenda is too compromise the only other public broadcaster offering objective comment. the demise of Mary Kostakidis is indicative of this political agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as conscripted vietnam veteran doing PhD on misinformation/social engineering, i am concerned about corporatisation of SBS &#8211; which sees editorial content dictated by advertisers and not necessarily by what is in the public interest. Howard has not been satisfied with loading the ABC board with neo-conservatives, now the agenda is too compromise the only other public broadcaster offering objective comment. the demise of Mary Kostakidis is indicative of this political agenda.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Petition Progress by Save Our SBS</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/116/comment-page-1#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We think that the first time www.SaveOurSBS.org was mentioned in print in mainstream media was when &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au:80/story/0,25197,22251256-14622,00.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Errol Simper&lt;/a&gt; made reference to it in A CERTAIN SCRIBE published in The Australian on 16 August 2007. In the days that followed, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://petition.saveoursbs.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;petition&lt;/a&gt; to save SBS had another flood of signatures. Previously, in his column, Errol Simper had written about the ad break interruptions on SBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We think that the first time <a href="http://www.SaveOurSBS.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.SaveOurSBS.org</a> was mentioned in print in mainstream media was when <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au:80/story/0,25197,22251256-14622,00.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Errol Simper</a> made reference to it in A CERTAIN SCRIBE published in The Australian on 16 August 2007. In the days that followed, the <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">petition</a> to save SBS had another flood of signatures. Previously, in his column, Errol Simper had written about the ad break interruptions on SBS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “Come Clean On Commercialisation” by Quentin Dempster by Darce</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112/comment-page-1#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Darce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;1. The impact of advertising on the SBS.&lt;/strong&gt;

There have been major changes to the SBS since the introduction of advertising, but they have not happened overnight. We can chart developments at the SBS since strictly limited advertising was introduced in 1992-3.

&lt;strong&gt;    * 1992&lt;/strong&gt;
      SBS Managing Director Brian Johns moves programs in languages other than English (LOTE) out of prime time as advertising is about to start. [i] Subsequent chief executives maintain the practice of English language domination of prime time, with LOTE programs broadcast either in the mornings, afternoons, or late at night, when many people would be at work, asleep, or otherwise occupied.
&lt;strong&gt;    * March 2003&lt;/strong&gt;
      SBS management is involved in a dispute with its own journalists over the introduction of advertising into news programs, which had previously been exempt. MEAA NSW secretary says 40 journalists had written to management claiming that sponsorship of news and current affairs programs compromised editorial integrity and could result in reporters being disciplined or fired for airing unfavourable stories about advertisers. [ii]
&lt;strong&gt;    * November 2003&lt;/strong&gt;
      More key staff to leave. “Since the arrival in January of former Television New Zealand (TVNZ) executive Shaun Brown as the head of television, there has been a succession of changes on and off screen at the Special Broadcasting Service. At first they seemed incremental. But over the past few months, long-established people and programs have been removed or relocated, new line-ups have been launched and pivotal programs reshaped. Since August 2002, the head of television has left, the chief programmer has resigned and the head of internal production has been told his job no longer exists”. [iii]
&lt;strong&gt;    * December 2003&lt;/strong&gt;
      The Federation of Ethnic Communities Council says that SBS has lost its way. FECCA Chairman Abd Malak claims “The only people who like SBS TV now are the cappuccino crowd – well-educated, middle-class people, it’s mainly sex and soccer, I think” He added that his organisation was “very close to giving up on SBS TV…..In the last three or four years they have separated themselves from ethnic communities. They don’t come to our functions or religious festivals”
      The dismissive, not to say insulting, response from SBS Managing Director Nigel Milan was “We&#039;re not going to cover the clog dancing from Brisbane Town Hall.” [iv]
&lt;strong&gt;    * January 2004.&lt;/strong&gt;
      The Age’s media writer Ross Warneke comments on the banishment of non-English programs from prime time. “The bulk of its ‘ethnic content’ these days is its morning news marathon, with hour after hour of foreign language news services relayed from everywhere from Manila to Madrid”. [v]
&lt;strong&gt;    * May 2004&lt;/strong&gt;
      Staff become disenchanted. The Age’s Debi Enker writes that SBS staff fear “that the search for a broader audience is leading to the acquisition and commissioning of programs that are ‘safer and blander’, that SBS will become ‘a poor man&#039;s version of a commercial network rather than providing a challenging alternative’. The harshest critics fear SBS will end up looking like a second-rate cable-TV station, running reality TV shows and English-language drama series that the free-to-air channels have rejected as either being too limited in their appeal or too provocative.” [vi]
&lt;strong&gt;    * June 2004&lt;/strong&gt;
      SBS joins with commercial broadcasters to oppose the tightening of restrictions on tobacco advertising through the insidious practice of product placement. [vii]
&lt;strong&gt;    * October 2004&lt;/strong&gt;
      SBS joins with the existing commercial stations to restrict competition and to argue against the granting of an additional free to air TV licence. The reason – more competition would impact on their advertising income. [viii]
&lt;strong&gt;    * November 2004&lt;/strong&gt;
      Veteran SBS film critic Margaret Pomeranz, who together with co-host David Stratton deserted SBS for the ABC comments:
      ”I think that the current management has a much more commercial bent than any previous management. They seem to be after the young female demographic, and I worry about this, because this is a demographic already catered to in excess on the commercial television stations. SBS was meant to broaden the scope of television in this country, extend what was already available, or that was always my vision of it. And I think it was the vision of a lot of people there as well. We were so little we didn’t rate very well, although during the ‘90s under Peter Cavanagh, our ratings increased at really a remarkable rate. And for all of this new direction towards a more commercial bent, young female demographic, SBS is appealing to less viewers than it did before.” [ix]
&lt;strong&gt;    * June 2005&lt;/strong&gt;
      George Zangalis, President of the National Ethnic and Multicultural Broadcasters Council, and a former member of the SBS board, issues a media release criticizing the direction of SBS TV. He says, “The SBS was established as a multicultural broadcaster, but has been moving away from its original charter. Programming in community languages has shrunk, while English programming has grown. Advertising has increased and become increasingly strident. Rather than focusing on different cultures, the SBS seems to be moving towards mainstream sports like cricket and now AFL. There is plenty of this type of programming on the ABC and the three commercial channels.” [x]

&lt;strong&gt;    * August 2005.&lt;/strong&gt;
      When first introduced, advertising on SBS is limited to five minutes per hour, and is not permitted to interrupt programs. It can only be used to top and tail programs. There are media reports that the SBS Board wants these restrictions lifted, and Managing Director Nigel Milan commissions a confidential survey on possible audience reactions to program interruptions. [xi] However the government does not remove the ban on advertisements interrupting programs. The experience of the early history of advertising in the US is relevant here.

&lt;strong&gt;    * February 2006.&lt;/strong&gt;
The SBS confirms the complaint made by George Zangalis, President of the Ethnic Broadcasters Council, in June 2005, that SBS advertising has increased and become increasingly strident. SBS&#039;s director of commercial affairs, Richard Finlayson says that the broadcaster has reviewed “the type of ads it will and will not accept. In the past SBS has been reluctant to carry some ads, such as hard-hitting, in-your-face retails ads. That’s changing” [xii]

&lt;strong&gt;2. How corporate underwriting changed to sponsorship and then became full blown advertising – the U.S. experience.&lt;/strong&gt;

Sometimes “sponsorship” or “corporate underwriting” is raised as a more palatable alternative to brash and hard-sell advertisements. What is wrong, it has been asked, about “The Macquarie Bank Einstein Factor” – a simple announcement at the front of the program that it is supported by the Macquarie Bank?

There are three things that concern Friends of the ABC, and many listeners and viewers, about advertising:

First there is the concern that advertising will distort programming priorities.

Second there is the concern that managers and program makers will be wary of airing any criticism of important advertisers – it can act as an unseen form of censorship.

Third is the irritation factor – advertisements are often unduly loud, repetitive, and disruptive of the program’s flow.

Simple corporate underwriting of the “Macquarie Bank Einstein Factor” kind would be less susceptible to the third concern, but is in no way exempt from the first two concerns. Moreover such corporate underwriting would attract only a fraction of the income that “real advertising” would bring, thus defeating part of the purpose.

An account of how corporate underwriting gradually transformed into sponsorship and then into full blown advertising in the United States is relevant here.

Advertising first appeared on the SBS in 1992-3, and its effect has indeed been gradual. However the same was true about advertising in the United States, where it took some ten years to make its real impact felt. When it started, in the 1920s, it was genteel and low key, but by the 1930s it was crass, loud and aggressive.

Advertising was not the main support for radio in its early days in the US. David Sarnoff, of RCA for example, advocated a tax on radio receivers, as a way of supporting broadcasting. Some stations were funded by colleges and universities. Others received support from philanthropists. However advertising grew steadily, if slowly at first.

Initially it was very discreet. Prices were never mentioned. The mention of personal items, like toothpaste, mouth wash or underclothes was taboo. Companies attached their names to entertainers, like the Ipana Troubadours, the Browning-King Orchestra and the Goodrich Silvertown Orchestra. There was no mention that Ipana made toothpaste, Browning King made overalls and Goodrich made tires, let alone any suggestion that listeners should buy these products. A strict ban on the mention of prices and store locations remained. The broadcasting lobby group, The National Association of Broadcasters, proposed that sponsorship announcements be banned from prime time listening, on the basis that it was family listening time.

All this changed with the 1929 crash.  CBS, one of the major networks was in trouble.  George Washington Hill, President of American Tobacco, came to the rescue.  Cremo cigars were suffering from rumours that they were made with spit.  He needed to counter the rumours, and was prepared to pay.  CBS capitulated, and in between tunes from the Cremo Military Band an announcer shouted: “There is no spit in Cremo.”  NBC soon followed suit, sponsorship became advertising, and aggressive. [xiii]

International experience has clearly shown that advertising impacts on the program priorities of public service broadcasters. [xiv] Despite the fact that advertising accounts for only 15% of SBS income, its impact has by now become clear.

Darce Cassidy, February 2006

[i] Brian Johns, ‘SBS: Coping with a Strange Idea’, in Multicultural Australia: The Challenges of Change, D. Goodman et al. Carlton, Scribe, 1991

[ii] Kylie Walker, SBS clashes with journalists over ads, The Age, 9 March 2003

[iii] Sydney Morning Herald, 11 November 2003

[iv] Christopher Kremmer, Ethnic groups find SBS sex and soccer a turn off, SMH 20 December, 2003

[v] Ross Warneke, Public broadcasters face big year, The Age, 8 January 2004

[vi] Debi Enker, Where to now, SBS?, The Age, 27 May 2004

[vii] Letter from Julie Eisenberg, SBS Head of Policy, to Senate Community Affairs Legislation Committee, 17 June, 2004

[viii] Provision of Commercial Television Broadcasting Services after 31 December 2006, SBS Submission to the Department of Information Technology, Communications and the Arts, October 2004

[ix] Radio National Media Report, 4 November 2004

[x] NEMBC Media Release, 8 June 2005

[xi] Errol Simper, Borrowed time up for Milan, The Australian, 11 August 2005

[xii] Neil Shoebridge, FIFA world cup kicks off SBS ad sales, Australian Financial Review, 27 February 2006

[xiii] Erik Barnouw, A History of Broadcasting in the United States, Vol 1, New York, OUP, 1966

[xiv] McKinsey and Co, Public service broadcasters around the world, London, 1999 (mimeo)



&lt;em&gt;[The above comment was originally published by Darce Cassidy from &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendsoftheabc.org/abcadverts.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Friends of the ABC&lt;/a&gt; in February 2006, prior to the implementation of the current SBS policy to insert advertising within programs.  Save Our SBS thanks Darce for resubmitting it here.  Ed.]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>1. The impact of advertising on the SBS.</strong></p>
<p>There have been major changes to the SBS since the introduction of advertising, but they have not happened overnight. We can chart developments at the SBS since strictly limited advertising was introduced in 1992-3.</p>
<p><strong>    * 1992</strong><br />
      SBS Managing Director Brian Johns moves programs in languages other than English (LOTE) out of prime time as advertising is about to start. [i] Subsequent chief executives maintain the practice of English language domination of prime time, with LOTE programs broadcast either in the mornings, afternoons, or late at night, when many people would be at work, asleep, or otherwise occupied.<br />
<strong>    * March 2003</strong><br />
      SBS management is involved in a dispute with its own journalists over the introduction of advertising into news programs, which had previously been exempt. MEAA NSW secretary says 40 journalists had written to management claiming that sponsorship of news and current affairs programs compromised editorial integrity and could result in reporters being disciplined or fired for airing unfavourable stories about advertisers. [ii]<br />
<strong>    * November 2003</strong><br />
      More key staff to leave. “Since the arrival in January of former Television New Zealand (TVNZ) executive Shaun Brown as the head of television, there has been a succession of changes on and off screen at the Special Broadcasting Service. At first they seemed incremental. But over the past few months, long-established people and programs have been removed or relocated, new line-ups have been launched and pivotal programs reshaped. Since August 2002, the head of television has left, the chief programmer has resigned and the head of internal production has been told his job no longer exists”. [iii]<br />
<strong>    * December 2003</strong><br />
      The Federation of Ethnic Communities Council says that SBS has lost its way. FECCA Chairman Abd Malak claims “The only people who like SBS TV now are the cappuccino crowd – well-educated, middle-class people, it’s mainly sex and soccer, I think” He added that his organisation was “very close to giving up on SBS TV…..In the last three or four years they have separated themselves from ethnic communities. They don’t come to our functions or religious festivals”<br />
      The dismissive, not to say insulting, response from SBS Managing Director Nigel Milan was “We&#8217;re not going to cover the clog dancing from Brisbane Town Hall.” [iv]<br />
<strong>    * January 2004.</strong><br />
      The Age’s media writer Ross Warneke comments on the banishment of non-English programs from prime time. “The bulk of its ‘ethnic content’ these days is its morning news marathon, with hour after hour of foreign language news services relayed from everywhere from Manila to Madrid”. [v]<br />
<strong>    * May 2004</strong><br />
      Staff become disenchanted. The Age’s Debi Enker writes that SBS staff fear “that the search for a broader audience is leading to the acquisition and commissioning of programs that are ‘safer and blander’, that SBS will become ‘a poor man&#8217;s version of a commercial network rather than providing a challenging alternative’. The harshest critics fear SBS will end up looking like a second-rate cable-TV station, running reality TV shows and English-language drama series that the free-to-air channels have rejected as either being too limited in their appeal or too provocative.” [vi]<br />
<strong>    * June 2004</strong><br />
      SBS joins with commercial broadcasters to oppose the tightening of restrictions on tobacco advertising through the insidious practice of product placement. [vii]<br />
<strong>    * October 2004</strong><br />
      SBS joins with the existing commercial stations to restrict competition and to argue against the granting of an additional free to air TV licence. The reason – more competition would impact on their advertising income. [viii]<br />
<strong>    * November 2004</strong><br />
      Veteran SBS film critic Margaret Pomeranz, who together with co-host David Stratton deserted SBS for the ABC comments:<br />
      ”I think that the current management has a much more commercial bent than any previous management. They seem to be after the young female demographic, and I worry about this, because this is a demographic already catered to in excess on the commercial television stations. SBS was meant to broaden the scope of television in this country, extend what was already available, or that was always my vision of it. And I think it was the vision of a lot of people there as well. We were so little we didn’t rate very well, although during the ‘90s under Peter Cavanagh, our ratings increased at really a remarkable rate. And for all of this new direction towards a more commercial bent, young female demographic, SBS is appealing to less viewers than it did before.” [ix]<br />
<strong>    * June 2005</strong><br />
      George Zangalis, President of the National Ethnic and Multicultural Broadcasters Council, and a former member of the SBS board, issues a media release criticizing the direction of SBS TV. He says, “The SBS was established as a multicultural broadcaster, but has been moving away from its original charter. Programming in community languages has shrunk, while English programming has grown. Advertising has increased and become increasingly strident. Rather than focusing on different cultures, the SBS seems to be moving towards mainstream sports like cricket and now AFL. There is plenty of this type of programming on the ABC and the three commercial channels.” [x]</p>
<p><strong>    * August 2005.</strong><br />
      When first introduced, advertising on SBS is limited to five minutes per hour, and is not permitted to interrupt programs. It can only be used to top and tail programs. There are media reports that the SBS Board wants these restrictions lifted, and Managing Director Nigel Milan commissions a confidential survey on possible audience reactions to program interruptions. [xi] However the government does not remove the ban on advertisements interrupting programs. The experience of the early history of advertising in the US is relevant here.</p>
<p><strong>    * February 2006.</strong><br />
The SBS confirms the complaint made by George Zangalis, President of the Ethnic Broadcasters Council, in June 2005, that SBS advertising has increased and become increasingly strident. SBS&#8217;s director of commercial affairs, Richard Finlayson says that the broadcaster has reviewed “the type of ads it will and will not accept. In the past SBS has been reluctant to carry some ads, such as hard-hitting, in-your-face retails ads. That’s changing” [xii]</p>
<p><strong>2. How corporate underwriting changed to sponsorship and then became full blown advertising – the U.S. experience.</strong></p>
<p>Sometimes “sponsorship” or “corporate underwriting” is raised as a more palatable alternative to brash and hard-sell advertisements. What is wrong, it has been asked, about “The Macquarie Bank Einstein Factor” – a simple announcement at the front of the program that it is supported by the Macquarie Bank?</p>
<p>There are three things that concern Friends of the ABC, and many listeners and viewers, about advertising:</p>
<p>First there is the concern that advertising will distort programming priorities.</p>
<p>Second there is the concern that managers and program makers will be wary of airing any criticism of important advertisers – it can act as an unseen form of censorship.</p>
<p>Third is the irritation factor – advertisements are often unduly loud, repetitive, and disruptive of the program’s flow.</p>
<p>Simple corporate underwriting of the “Macquarie Bank Einstein Factor” kind would be less susceptible to the third concern, but is in no way exempt from the first two concerns. Moreover such corporate underwriting would attract only a fraction of the income that “real advertising” would bring, thus defeating part of the purpose.</p>
<p>An account of how corporate underwriting gradually transformed into sponsorship and then into full blown advertising in the United States is relevant here.</p>
<p>Advertising first appeared on the SBS in 1992-3, and its effect has indeed been gradual. However the same was true about advertising in the United States, where it took some ten years to make its real impact felt. When it started, in the 1920s, it was genteel and low key, but by the 1930s it was crass, loud and aggressive.</p>
<p>Advertising was not the main support for radio in its early days in the US. David Sarnoff, of RCA for example, advocated a tax on radio receivers, as a way of supporting broadcasting. Some stations were funded by colleges and universities. Others received support from philanthropists. However advertising grew steadily, if slowly at first.</p>
<p>Initially it was very discreet. Prices were never mentioned. The mention of personal items, like toothpaste, mouth wash or underclothes was taboo. Companies attached their names to entertainers, like the Ipana Troubadours, the Browning-King Orchestra and the Goodrich Silvertown Orchestra. There was no mention that Ipana made toothpaste, Browning King made overalls and Goodrich made tires, let alone any suggestion that listeners should buy these products. A strict ban on the mention of prices and store locations remained. The broadcasting lobby group, The National Association of Broadcasters, proposed that sponsorship announcements be banned from prime time listening, on the basis that it was family listening time.</p>
<p>All this changed with the 1929 crash.  CBS, one of the major networks was in trouble.  George Washington Hill, President of American Tobacco, came to the rescue.  Cremo cigars were suffering from rumours that they were made with spit.  He needed to counter the rumours, and was prepared to pay.  CBS capitulated, and in between tunes from the Cremo Military Band an announcer shouted: “There is no spit in Cremo.”  NBC soon followed suit, sponsorship became advertising, and aggressive. [xiii]</p>
<p>International experience has clearly shown that advertising impacts on the program priorities of public service broadcasters. [xiv] Despite the fact that advertising accounts for only 15% of SBS income, its impact has by now become clear.</p>
<p>Darce Cassidy, February 2006</p>
<p>[i] Brian Johns, ‘SBS: Coping with a Strange Idea’, in Multicultural Australia: The Challenges of Change, D. Goodman et al. Carlton, Scribe, 1991</p>
<p>[ii] Kylie Walker, SBS clashes with journalists over ads, The Age, 9 March 2003</p>
<p>[iii] Sydney Morning Herald, 11 November 2003</p>
<p>[iv] Christopher Kremmer, Ethnic groups find SBS sex and soccer a turn off, SMH 20 December, 2003</p>
<p>[v] Ross Warneke, Public broadcasters face big year, The Age, 8 January 2004</p>
<p>[vi] Debi Enker, Where to now, SBS?, The Age, 27 May 2004</p>
<p>[vii] Letter from Julie Eisenberg, SBS Head of Policy, to Senate Community Affairs Legislation Committee, 17 June, 2004</p>
<p>[viii] Provision of Commercial Television Broadcasting Services after 31 December 2006, SBS Submission to the Department of Information Technology, Communications and the Arts, October 2004</p>
<p>[ix] Radio National Media Report, 4 November 2004</p>
<p>[x] NEMBC Media Release, 8 June 2005</p>
<p>[xi] Errol Simper, Borrowed time up for Milan, The Australian, 11 August 2005</p>
<p>[xii] Neil Shoebridge, FIFA world cup kicks off SBS ad sales, Australian Financial Review, 27 February 2006</p>
<p>[xiii] Erik Barnouw, A History of Broadcasting in the United States, Vol 1, New York, OUP, 1966</p>
<p>[xiv] McKinsey and Co, Public service broadcasters around the world, London, 1999 (mimeo)</p>
<p><em>[The above comment was originally published by Darce Cassidy from <a href="http://friendsoftheabc.org/abcadverts.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Friends of the ABC</a> in February 2006, prior to the implementation of the current SBS policy to insert advertising within programs.  Save Our SBS thanks Darce for resubmitting it here.  Ed.]</em></p>
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		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/77/comment-page-1#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Our SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an historical account of sponsorship and advertising including the effect at SBS, before February 2006, please read the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;comment submitted by &lt;a href=&quot;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Darce&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; on the SaveOurSBS.org web site at  &lt;em&gt;http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comments&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an historical account of sponsorship and advertising including the effect at SBS, before February 2006, please read the <em><strong>comment submitted by <a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comments" rel="nofollow">Darce</a></strong></em> on the SaveOurSBS.org web site at  <em><a href="http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comments" rel="nofollow">http://saveoursbs.org/archives/112#comments</a></em></p>
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		<title>Comment on SBS Staff Views by sabella</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/72/comment-page-1#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>sabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from the bleatings of &quot;sunniness and bright days&quot; at SBS by Shaun Brown, as a staff member, I can vouch that morale is at its lowest ever at SBS.

Yes, we are silenced.  &quot;Speaking out&quot; incurs being hounded and pummeled for it, or else losing one&#039;s job over it.   Silenced?  Well, yeah, it has become VERY quiet around the place...  

The advertising is a disgrace the way it&#039;s being instrumented: catering to the advertiser as to where the ads are placed, instead of catering to the needs and sensitivities of a given program.  

Multiculturalism is no longer of importance, it seems.  Apparently, &quot;We&#039;ve done that.  Been there.&quot;  Now we&#039;re supposed to be moving to a wonderful-brand-new-world of what &quot;for all Australians&quot; really means.  According to the spin of Shaun Brown, what &quot;for all Australians&quot; really means now is that it is predominately FOR Australians...

Please sign the &lt;a href=&quot;http://petition.saveoursbs.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;petition&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from the bleatings of &#8220;sunniness and bright days&#8221; at SBS by Shaun Brown, as a staff member, I can vouch that morale is at its lowest ever at SBS.</p>
<p>Yes, we are silenced.  &#8220;Speaking out&#8221; incurs being hounded and pummeled for it, or else losing one&#8217;s job over it.   Silenced?  Well, yeah, it has become VERY quiet around the place&#8230;  </p>
<p>The advertising is a disgrace the way it&#8217;s being instrumented: catering to the advertiser as to where the ads are placed, instead of catering to the needs and sensitivities of a given program.  </p>
<p>Multiculturalism is no longer of importance, it seems.  Apparently, &#8220;We&#8217;ve done that.  Been there.&#8221;  Now we&#8217;re supposed to be moving to a wonderful-brand-new-world of what &#8220;for all Australians&#8221; really means.  According to the spin of Shaun Brown, what &#8220;for all Australians&#8221; really means now is that it is predominately FOR Australians&#8230;</p>
<p>Please sign the <a href="http://petition.saveoursbs.org" rel="nofollow">petition</a>!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are There Any Programs on SBS-TV That Are Not Interrupted For Commercial Breaks? by TVwatcher</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/62/comment-page-1#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>TVwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. But look what time it was on. Midnight! 

So we have to wait until midnight to see a program with no ads on SBS. They probably couldn&#039;t find any sponsors anyway. 

If they can show one movie with no ads once, then SBS ought to do that all the time. Just like they used to.</description>
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<p>So we have to wait until midnight to see a program with no ads on SBS. They probably couldn&#8217;t find any sponsors anyway. </p>
<p>If they can show one movie with no ads once, then SBS ought to do that all the time. Just like they used to.</p>
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		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/77/comment-page-1#comment-9</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the lead up to the 2007 federal election the Walkley Magazine published an opinion about the change in advertising policies at SBS, the possible effect on the ABC and the changing face of public broadcasting. So what are the opposition policies on these issues? SaveOurSBS has been granted permission to re-publish the story below by Quentin Quentin Dempster. It originally appeared in the July 2007 edition of the Walkley Magazine. The full story is reproduced below.


&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Come Clean On Commercialisation&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;by Quentin Dempster&lt;/em&gt;

With the federal election campaign already in full swing Quentin Dempster previews the policy debate about the future of public broadcasting. 

“Stiff and stiffer.” Those erectile dysfunction ads on SBS television are helping to spotlight the Howard government’s insidious agenda for public broadcasting in Australia.

The 2004 Liberal Party election manifesto made no mention of stretching or reinterpreting the SBS Act’s definition of “natural breaks”. From 1992, when advertising was introduced at SBS through an amendment to the SBS Act, the SBS board’s consistent legal advice was that “natural breaks” meant ads could only be broadcast between programs, not during them, with the possible exception of lengthy sporting coverage. That interpretation prevailed from 1992 to 2007. Last year the [Carla] Zampatti-chaired board at SBS overruled that 15-year internal legal advice to seek an external counsel’s opinion.

That process produced for the SBS board a legal opinion that “natural breaks” could be interpreted as meaning convenient spots within programs. Equipped with this highly questionable and still legally untested opinion, the SBS board, without advance notice or consultation with its audience, set about turning SBS television into a fully commercial channel.

In fact, the Zampatti board’s business plan is to turn SBS Television into Australia’s fourth free-to-air commercial channel.

Don’t take my word for it. An eagle-eyed informant, knowing my aversion to commercialising public broadcasting in Australia, spotted the SBS business strategy in B&amp;T, the advertising industry magazine.

On January 17, just as SBS was to start broadcasting ads through its new hour-long news, documentaries, feature films and other programs, B&amp;T told the advertising and marketing industry that SBS was out “to position SBS as Australia’s fourth commercial network”.

B&amp;T quoted SBS commercial director Richard Finlayson: “We have tended to fly under the radar and people just have not taken us seriously. Our long-term agenda is that we do not want people to just think about the three commercial networks but SBS as well. We are now taking a more aggressive approach to communicating our message and particularly with building our relationships with key media.”

The Zampatti board has embarked on this fully commercial business plan with the informal agreement of the Howard government that appointed it.

Again, this fundamental change to the role and funding of SBS within the broadcast media was not in the ruling Liberal Party’s 2004 election manifesto.

The Howard government has no mandate from the Australian people to do this. The communications minister, Helen Coonan, says advertising within programs at SBS is a matter for the “independent” SBS board. But when the other commercial television networks realise what is in play, the minister, and undoubtedly the prime minister, will suffer the wrath of those competing in a now very tight free-to-air TV advertising market. Was it government policy to impose a fourth fully commercial television channel by stealth when Coonan’s recently announced media reforms ruled out such a channel?

The Zampatti board will say that the Special Broadcasting Service Act caps advertising at just five minutes an hour, unlike Seven, Nine and Ten, which can broadcast up to 15 minutes an hour. But after bludgeoning the SBS audience with in-program advertising and achieving their reluctant acceptance, it is only a matter of time before the board seeks the removal of the cap.

The ethnic communities of Australia, for which SBS was created by the Fraser government (1975-83), have almost given up on SBS. With its ratings-chasing programming in sport and the replacement of all foreign language programming with English language programs in prime time, SBS seems to have abandoned its original charter to enhance its commercial revenue. It is now rejigging its news and current affairs output to adopt a more “commercial feel”.

There needs to be an important reassessment of the future of SBS. The taxpayers of Australia, who have invested ten of millions of dollars each year in SBS, should be consulted. The ABC would have a stronger case to merge with SBS and take on its multicultural charter obligations through the internet, digital multi-channel free-to-air television and digital radio, if the ABC were not already infected with the commercial virus. This virus has been injected into its veins by the Howard government through the [Maurice] Newman board.

The Newman board has restructured the ABC divisions, replacing ABC Enterprises (which manages ABC Shops and other related products) with what it is calling ABC Commercial.

With the ABC Act expressly prohibiting advertising on ABC radio and television, ABC Commercial wants to construct a new business plan around cybercast advertising on ABC Online. Broadcasting is rapidly morphing into cybercasting. If you miss tonight’s edition of The 7.30 Report, ABC TV News, or any other ABC copyright program, soon you will be able to go to your computer and play the full digital video at any time. People are already watching the popular The Chaser’s War on Everything and Four Corners’ broadband editions through their internet.

There is nothing in the ABC Act to prevent the Newman board from inserting advertising in and around this content.

The spirit of the ABC Act, drafted in 1983 before the internet was invented, is clearly against advertising. But the board has helpful legal advice that because the act is silent on internet advertising, there is nothing in the act to prevent cybercast advertising. (Lawyers. Don’t you just love ’em?)

Again the Howard government, through Coonan, says it is a matter for the ABC board. But the government has no mandate from the Australian people to distort the existing funding base of the ABC and, through the commercial imperative this will create, its very purpose.

Public broadcasters view their audiences as citizens in a democracy to be informed, engaged and challenged through innovative, high-quality and comprehensive programming, not as consumers to be delivered up to advertisers.

Both the ABC and SBS boards will say enhanced commercial returns will mean more Australian programming. This is superficially attractive. But what sort of programming? Mark Scott, the ABC’s new managing director, is a former editorial director of John Fairfax Holdings Ltd. We are told his Fairfax experience demonstrates that it is possible to separate church and state – editorial from commercial. This was rubbish at Fairfax and will be rubbish at the ABC. Just read Fred Hilmer’s book, The Fairfax Experience (Wrightbooks, $32.95).

Hilmer, the former Fairfax chief executive (and Scott’s mentor), set about transforming The Sydney Morning Herald and the other papers with multipleadvertorial sections and high-gloss magazines and inserts, getting maximum display advertising bang for the distribution buck. In the process Hilmer squeezed the space available for and investment in news and quality journalism. The revenue imperative (the state) overruled editorial (the church).

Fairfax now allows advertising stickers to obliterate its front-page headline. Did the editor ever object, at least to symbolically protect the paper’s editorial integrity on behalf of readers who buy the paper for its news?

Cybercast advertising at the ABC will be self-defeating. When push comes to shove in the pre-Budget Cabinet expenditure review committee, treasury advisers will monitor the ABC’s commercial revenue and downwardly adjust the taxpayer appropriation accordingly.

We now await the federal election campaign with interest. The future of public broadcasting should be on the agenda so that the Australian public can at least feel it is being consulted about its taxpayer investment in this sector.

The ABC board should have a transition strategy in the event that, as the polls now consistently indicate, there is a change of government. It should be telling the public just what the ABC can do for Australia through the digital free-to-air multi-channel and broadband revolution.

The ABC could have an ABC Education division with a free-to-air English and other languages channel, a technical and further education channel, a dedicated Australian-made children’s channel and other nation-building services which exploit this extraordinary and exciting technology. But the new chairman has not said “boo” on any important topic of strategic importance to the ABC since his appointment last year. 

The current ABC board cannot be relied on to advocate the cause of independent public broadcasting. It is in an ideological and party-political bog. If it is out to destroy the so-called ABC culture; introducing advertising on the ABC should do the trick. 
The current threat is insidious.


Our minds must be clear. Labor policy announced this month is to prohibit cybercast advertising, stop the party-political stack of the ABC board and restore the staff-elected director position in the ABC Act. This is most welcome in an institution which has been under sustained ideological attack and vilification for more than a decade. But it is also hard to forget that under the Hawke/Keating governments 1983-1996 the ABC was substantially defunded. Pressure must be maintained on any incoming Rudd Labor government to rebuild the ABC’s creative capacity and to protect the multicultural purpose of SBS.

In this regard, we need to know exactly what Kevin Rudd and Rupert Murdoch discussed at their New York meeting in April. Murdoch does not give photo ops to wannabe prime ministers without securing policy undertakings or, more euphemistically, understandings.

Murdoch would want extended indefinitely the outrageous regulatory protections for his 25 per cent share in the now highly profitable Foxtel pay-TV. He’d also be seeking ways in which he and James Packer could wrest the other 50 per cent of Foxtel away from Telstra without having to pay an extortionate price. He would also want the ABC to be further marginalised, just as public broadcasting is marginalised in the US.

Where would public broadcasting stand in the event of a change of government in Canberra? Please let us know, Mr Rudd. In the meantime, those who want the ABC to survive as an adequately funded, independent, mainstream and non-commercial public broadcaster will have to fight hard.

We must never get tired.

~~~~~~

&lt;em&gt;Quentin Dempster is a journalist, author and ABC broadcaster. In June 2006 he was elected to the ABC board as staff-elected director. The position was subsequently abolished by the Howard government. Due to format compatibility SaveOurSBS has not included the cartoons by Lindsay Foyle who is a pocket cartoonist for The Australian. The original story with the cartoons can be viewed at &lt;a href=&quot;http://magazine.walkleys.com/content/view/104/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Walkley Magazine&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;  


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the lead up to the 2007 federal election the Walkley Magazine published an opinion about the change in advertising policies at SBS, the possible effect on the ABC and the changing face of public broadcasting. So what are the opposition policies on these issues? SaveOurSBS has been granted permission to re-publish the story below by Quentin Quentin Dempster. It originally appeared in the July 2007 edition of the Walkley Magazine. The full story is reproduced below.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Come Clean On Commercialisation&#8221;</strong> <em>by Quentin Dempster</em></p>
<p>With the federal election campaign already in full swing Quentin Dempster previews the policy debate about the future of public broadcasting. </p>
<p>“Stiff and stiffer.” Those erectile dysfunction ads on SBS television are helping to spotlight the Howard government’s insidious agenda for public broadcasting in Australia.</p>
<p>The 2004 Liberal Party election manifesto made no mention of stretching or reinterpreting the SBS Act’s definition of “natural breaks”. From 1992, when advertising was introduced at SBS through an amendment to the SBS Act, the SBS board’s consistent legal advice was that “natural breaks” meant ads could only be broadcast between programs, not during them, with the possible exception of lengthy sporting coverage. That interpretation prevailed from 1992 to 2007. Last year the [Carla] Zampatti-chaired board at SBS overruled that 15-year internal legal advice to seek an external counsel’s opinion.</p>
<p>That process produced for the SBS board a legal opinion that “natural breaks” could be interpreted as meaning convenient spots within programs. Equipped with this highly questionable and still legally untested opinion, the SBS board, without advance notice or consultation with its audience, set about turning SBS television into a fully commercial channel.</p>
<p>In fact, the Zampatti board’s business plan is to turn SBS Television into Australia’s fourth free-to-air commercial channel.</p>
<p>Don’t take my word for it. An eagle-eyed informant, knowing my aversion to commercialising public broadcasting in Australia, spotted the SBS business strategy in B&#038;T, the advertising industry magazine.</p>
<p>On January 17, just as SBS was to start broadcasting ads through its new hour-long news, documentaries, feature films and other programs, B&#038;T told the advertising and marketing industry that SBS was out “to position SBS as Australia’s fourth commercial network”.</p>
<p>B&#038;T quoted SBS commercial director Richard Finlayson: “We have tended to fly under the radar and people just have not taken us seriously. Our long-term agenda is that we do not want people to just think about the three commercial networks but SBS as well. We are now taking a more aggressive approach to communicating our message and particularly with building our relationships with key media.”</p>
<p>The Zampatti board has embarked on this fully commercial business plan with the informal agreement of the Howard government that appointed it.</p>
<p>Again, this fundamental change to the role and funding of SBS within the broadcast media was not in the ruling Liberal Party’s 2004 election manifesto.</p>
<p>The Howard government has no mandate from the Australian people to do this. The communications minister, Helen Coonan, says advertising within programs at SBS is a matter for the “independent” SBS board. But when the other commercial television networks realise what is in play, the minister, and undoubtedly the prime minister, will suffer the wrath of those competing in a now very tight free-to-air TV advertising market. Was it government policy to impose a fourth fully commercial television channel by stealth when Coonan’s recently announced media reforms ruled out such a channel?</p>
<p>The Zampatti board will say that the Special Broadcasting Service Act caps advertising at just five minutes an hour, unlike Seven, Nine and Ten, which can broadcast up to 15 minutes an hour. But after bludgeoning the SBS audience with in-program advertising and achieving their reluctant acceptance, it is only a matter of time before the board seeks the removal of the cap.</p>
<p>The ethnic communities of Australia, for which SBS was created by the Fraser government (1975-83), have almost given up on SBS. With its ratings-chasing programming in sport and the replacement of all foreign language programming with English language programs in prime time, SBS seems to have abandoned its original charter to enhance its commercial revenue. It is now rejigging its news and current affairs output to adopt a more “commercial feel”.</p>
<p>There needs to be an important reassessment of the future of SBS. The taxpayers of Australia, who have invested ten of millions of dollars each year in SBS, should be consulted. The ABC would have a stronger case to merge with SBS and take on its multicultural charter obligations through the internet, digital multi-channel free-to-air television and digital radio, if the ABC were not already infected with the commercial virus. This virus has been injected into its veins by the Howard government through the [Maurice] Newman board.</p>
<p>The Newman board has restructured the ABC divisions, replacing ABC Enterprises (which manages ABC Shops and other related products) with what it is calling ABC Commercial.</p>
<p>With the ABC Act expressly prohibiting advertising on ABC radio and television, ABC Commercial wants to construct a new business plan around cybercast advertising on ABC Online. Broadcasting is rapidly morphing into cybercasting. If you miss tonight’s edition of The 7.30 Report, ABC TV News, or any other ABC copyright program, soon you will be able to go to your computer and play the full digital video at any time. People are already watching the popular The Chaser’s War on Everything and Four Corners’ broadband editions through their internet.</p>
<p>There is nothing in the ABC Act to prevent the Newman board from inserting advertising in and around this content.</p>
<p>The spirit of the ABC Act, drafted in 1983 before the internet was invented, is clearly against advertising. But the board has helpful legal advice that because the act is silent on internet advertising, there is nothing in the act to prevent cybercast advertising. (Lawyers. Don’t you just love ’em?)</p>
<p>Again the Howard government, through Coonan, says it is a matter for the ABC board. But the government has no mandate from the Australian people to distort the existing funding base of the ABC and, through the commercial imperative this will create, its very purpose.</p>
<p>Public broadcasters view their audiences as citizens in a democracy to be informed, engaged and challenged through innovative, high-quality and comprehensive programming, not as consumers to be delivered up to advertisers.</p>
<p>Both the ABC and SBS boards will say enhanced commercial returns will mean more Australian programming. This is superficially attractive. But what sort of programming? Mark Scott, the ABC’s new managing director, is a former editorial director of John Fairfax Holdings Ltd. We are told his Fairfax experience demonstrates that it is possible to separate church and state – editorial from commercial. This was rubbish at Fairfax and will be rubbish at the ABC. Just read Fred Hilmer’s book, The Fairfax Experience (Wrightbooks, $32.95).</p>
<p>Hilmer, the former Fairfax chief executive (and Scott’s mentor), set about transforming The Sydney Morning Herald and the other papers with multipleadvertorial sections and high-gloss magazines and inserts, getting maximum display advertising bang for the distribution buck. In the process Hilmer squeezed the space available for and investment in news and quality journalism. The revenue imperative (the state) overruled editorial (the church).</p>
<p>Fairfax now allows advertising stickers to obliterate its front-page headline. Did the editor ever object, at least to symbolically protect the paper’s editorial integrity on behalf of readers who buy the paper for its news?</p>
<p>Cybercast advertising at the ABC will be self-defeating. When push comes to shove in the pre-Budget Cabinet expenditure review committee, treasury advisers will monitor the ABC’s commercial revenue and downwardly adjust the taxpayer appropriation accordingly.</p>
<p>We now await the federal election campaign with interest. The future of public broadcasting should be on the agenda so that the Australian public can at least feel it is being consulted about its taxpayer investment in this sector.</p>
<p>The ABC board should have a transition strategy in the event that, as the polls now consistently indicate, there is a change of government. It should be telling the public just what the ABC can do for Australia through the digital free-to-air multi-channel and broadband revolution.</p>
<p>The ABC could have an ABC Education division with a free-to-air English and other languages channel, a technical and further education channel, a dedicated Australian-made children’s channel and other nation-building services which exploit this extraordinary and exciting technology. But the new chairman has not said “boo” on any important topic of strategic importance to the ABC since his appointment last year. </p>
<p>The current ABC board cannot be relied on to advocate the cause of independent public broadcasting. It is in an ideological and party-political bog. If it is out to destroy the so-called ABC culture; introducing advertising on the ABC should do the trick.<br />
The current threat is insidious.</p>
<p>Our minds must be clear. Labor policy announced this month is to prohibit cybercast advertising, stop the party-political stack of the ABC board and restore the staff-elected director position in the ABC Act. This is most welcome in an institution which has been under sustained ideological attack and vilification for more than a decade. But it is also hard to forget that under the Hawke/Keating governments 1983-1996 the ABC was substantially defunded. Pressure must be maintained on any incoming Rudd Labor government to rebuild the ABC’s creative capacity and to protect the multicultural purpose of SBS.</p>
<p>In this regard, we need to know exactly what Kevin Rudd and Rupert Murdoch discussed at their New York meeting in April. Murdoch does not give photo ops to wannabe prime ministers without securing policy undertakings or, more euphemistically, understandings.</p>
<p>Murdoch would want extended indefinitely the outrageous regulatory protections for his 25 per cent share in the now highly profitable Foxtel pay-TV. He’d also be seeking ways in which he and James Packer could wrest the other 50 per cent of Foxtel away from Telstra without having to pay an extortionate price. He would also want the ABC to be further marginalised, just as public broadcasting is marginalised in the US.</p>
<p>Where would public broadcasting stand in the event of a change of government in Canberra? Please let us know, Mr Rudd. In the meantime, those who want the ABC to survive as an adequately funded, independent, mainstream and non-commercial public broadcaster will have to fight hard.</p>
<p>We must never get tired.</p>
<p>~~~~~~</p>
<p><em>Quentin Dempster is a journalist, author and ABC broadcaster. In June 2006 he was elected to the ABC board as staff-elected director. The position was subsequently abolished by the Howard government. Due to format compatibility SaveOurSBS has not included the cartoons by Lindsay Foyle who is a pocket cartoonist for The Australian. The original story with the cartoons can be viewed at <a href="http://magazine.walkleys.com/content/view/104/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Walkley Magazine</a>.</em>  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Are There Any Programs on SBS-TV That Are Not Interrupted For Commercial Breaks? by guille56</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/62/comment-page-1#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>guille56</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently (just before midnight on May 22nd) SBS screened the lavishly costumed movie &quot;Russian Ark&quot;.  What makes the film unusual is that it was shot in one continuous take, quite an amazing feat considering the number of extras involved in many of the scenes!

Having seen it at the cinema I was wondering how SBS would treat it with ads.  Well, to SBS&#039;s credit they ran it without any breaks.  If ever there was a program that lacked natural breaks, of course this was it.

SBS did &quot;bookend&quot; the film with about 4 or five ads at each end.  Although this film was treated with respect, unfortunately it seems that many others are not.

Thanks for the site ... G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently (just before midnight on May 22nd) SBS screened the lavishly costumed movie &#8220;Russian Ark&#8221;.  What makes the film unusual is that it was shot in one continuous take, quite an amazing feat considering the number of extras involved in many of the scenes!</p>
<p>Having seen it at the cinema I was wondering how SBS would treat it with ads.  Well, to SBS&#8217;s credit they ran it without any breaks.  If ever there was a program that lacked natural breaks, of course this was it.</p>
<p>SBS did &#8220;bookend&#8221; the film with about 4 or five ads at each end.  Although this film was treated with respect, unfortunately it seems that many others are not.</p>
<p>Thanks for the site &#8230; G</p>
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		<title>Comment on SBS Staff Views by mu5ing</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/72/comment-page-1#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>mu5ing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After having worked in SBS for a few months: I understood a fundamental principle; even bottom-feeders have a pecking order.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us What You Think About SBS by Sam Smit</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/59/comment-page-1#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Smit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBS has ruined the Movie Show. This once great show which for years was a half-hour show originally presented by Margaret Pomeranz &amp; David Stratton has now been reduced to a mere 10 minute fill-in type program. Margaret &amp; David left SBS a couple of years ago to take their show to ABC-TV but under a different name: At The Movies. Shortly after the departure of Margaret &amp; David from SBS, Margaret was interviewed by Jon Faine on the Conversation Hour on 774 AM Melbourne Local Radio. In that interview Margaret then talked about of the management style at SBS as having changed and she predicated/warned that it would only be a matter of time before SBS-TV began interrupting programs on SBS-TV for advertisements. 

After the departure of Margaret &amp; David from SBS, the Movie Show took a short break from the small screen and later returned however with different presenters and a slightly altered format. The ‘new-look’ Movie Show remained as a half-hour show. 

It now seems that the SBS-TV audience did not take as well to that ‘new-look’. As SBS is now more focused on ratings and the advertising dollar, SBS have done all but flick the show. 

The Movie Show on SBS is now a 10 minute fill-in type show amounting to not much more than an advertorial for the Movie Show web site. And guess what is on their web site? Ads of course. Lots of them. 

Is this proof that SBS are now simply using a TV show merely to generate income? 

I preferred SBS-TV as it was for many years, when the ads were between programs only. However I believe that SBS, being a public tax-payer funded broadcaster, should not be allowed to run any advertisements at all. None! The current management could easily revert to their previous policy of only running ads between programs and not in them. 

Look at what SBS has done to the Movie Show. Once you start to carry ads, the whole equation changes, forever. 

In my opinion it would seem that the current management of SBS are no longer truly committed to the notion of what a public broadcaster should be. I am not impressed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBS has ruined the Movie Show. This once great show which for years was a half-hour show originally presented by Margaret Pomeranz &amp; David Stratton has now been reduced to a mere 10 minute fill-in type program. Margaret &amp; David left SBS a couple of years ago to take their show to ABC-TV but under a different name: At The Movies. Shortly after the departure of Margaret &amp; David from SBS, Margaret was interviewed by Jon Faine on the Conversation Hour on 774 AM Melbourne Local Radio. In that interview Margaret then talked about of the management style at SBS as having changed and she predicated/warned that it would only be a matter of time before SBS-TV began interrupting programs on SBS-TV for advertisements. </p>
<p>After the departure of Margaret &amp; David from SBS, the Movie Show took a short break from the small screen and later returned however with different presenters and a slightly altered format. The ‘new-look’ Movie Show remained as a half-hour show. </p>
<p>It now seems that the SBS-TV audience did not take as well to that ‘new-look’. As SBS is now more focused on ratings and the advertising dollar, SBS have done all but flick the show. </p>
<p>The Movie Show on SBS is now a 10 minute fill-in type show amounting to not much more than an advertorial for the Movie Show web site. And guess what is on their web site? Ads of course. Lots of them. </p>
<p>Is this proof that SBS are now simply using a TV show merely to generate income? </p>
<p>I preferred SBS-TV as it was for many years, when the ads were between programs only. However I believe that SBS, being a public tax-payer funded broadcaster, should not be allowed to run any advertisements at all. None! The current management could easily revert to their previous policy of only running ads between programs and not in them. </p>
<p>Look at what SBS has done to the Movie Show. Once you start to carry ads, the whole equation changes, forever. </p>
<p>In my opinion it would seem that the current management of SBS are no longer truly committed to the notion of what a public broadcaster should be. I am not impressed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Programs That Were Never Meant To Be Interrupted For Advertisements by Juan J</title>
		<link>http://saveoursbs.org/archives/63/comment-page-1#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 09:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CUTTING EDGE 9 Jan 2007 SBS-TV forced the ad breaks unnaturally into this program and ruined it in my opinion . 

This documentary series had 3 breaks for advertisements &amp; promos . The breaks were not natural. All of the breaks looked forced to me. 

In the series “Cutting Edge” SBS televised the BBC program “The Prisoner: How I Planned To Kill Tony Blair” Tuesday 9 Jan 2007. The program began at 8:34pm.

8:34 PM	program started.
8:52 PM	1st advertisement break. 
9:05 PM	2nd advertisement break.
9:19 PM	3rd advertisement break. 
9:35 PM	program finished. 

According to the end credits this program was produced by the BBC. 

The BBC does not make programs formatted for commercial break interruptions. 

The documentary maker of this production chose to use a chapter and verse ‘book-style’ of story telling to tell this story. Hence the program consisted of a number of chapters and it seemed to me that SBS “forced” the breaks at the end of certain chapters. 

This approach taken by SBS-TV may have worked if the documentary maker had cut the program with an altered pace where SBS inserted the breaks. Of course the documentary maker did not use the chapter and verse ‘book-style’ as some sort of cue for commercial interruption. Hence the breaks looked unnatural in their placement. 

The idea of dividing the program into chapters was a very clever approach to bring the viewer into the experience of the danger and suspense that was being experienced and told. Obviously the idea was for the audience to be placed into the same situation as the story being told. The point of view of no relief, no letting up, being trapped and without a break. No rest. As such this program was never supposed to take a break (for commercials) as that would and did destroy the very portrayal of what the program was about. 

All the breaks in this program looked like “forced” breaks. 

The problem was that this program was never supposed to be ‘paused’ for interruptions at these, or any other points. 

As the program was slowly paced and required a great deal of concentration it took a long while after each commercial break to establish pace of the program again. On every occasion just when it seemed the pace was almost established, bang, suddenly another commercial break. Even the presentation to air looked abrupt with the unsightly, oversized font, lower screen program name graphic supered over the program picture which then suddenly cut to the full screen “CUTTING EDGE” high chrominance graphic (bearing no resemblance to the actual program style or the fonts used in it). This was followed a second later by a fast and abrupt fade to black and into the first commercial spot at the head of the break(s). Actually each break began with a promo but it was just as intrusive as an ad! 

In my opinion all the breaks were suitably placed by SBS to totally destroy the timing and the dramatic real-life events. Hence all the breaks looked very unnatural. SBS paid no attention to the viewer experience or it seems the documentary makers method of telling a rather chilling story. 

If SBS ‘force’ the ad breaks into the program, how can they then say that the ad breaks were ‘natural’? Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CUTTING EDGE 9 Jan 2007 SBS-TV forced the ad breaks unnaturally into this program and ruined it in my opinion . </p>
<p>This documentary series had 3 breaks for advertisements &amp; promos . The breaks were not natural. All of the breaks looked forced to me. </p>
<p>In the series “Cutting Edge” SBS televised the BBC program “The Prisoner: How I Planned To Kill Tony Blair” Tuesday 9 Jan 2007. The program began at 8:34pm.</p>
<p>8:34 PM	program started.<br />
8:52 PM	1st advertisement break.<br />
9:05 PM	2nd advertisement break.<br />
9:19 PM	3rd advertisement break.<br />
9:35 PM	program finished. </p>
<p>According to the end credits this program was produced by the BBC. </p>
<p>The BBC does not make programs formatted for commercial break interruptions. </p>
<p>The documentary maker of this production chose to use a chapter and verse ‘book-style’ of story telling to tell this story. Hence the program consisted of a number of chapters and it seemed to me that SBS “forced” the breaks at the end of certain chapters. </p>
<p>This approach taken by SBS-TV may have worked if the documentary maker had cut the program with an altered pace where SBS inserted the breaks. Of course the documentary maker did not use the chapter and verse ‘book-style’ as some sort of cue for commercial interruption. Hence the breaks looked unnatural in their placement. </p>
<p>The idea of dividing the program into chapters was a very clever approach to bring the viewer into the experience of the danger and suspense that was being experienced and told. Obviously the idea was for the audience to be placed into the same situation as the story being told. The point of view of no relief, no letting up, being trapped and without a break. No rest. As such this program was never supposed to take a break (for commercials) as that would and did destroy the very portrayal of what the program was about. </p>
<p>All the breaks in this program looked like “forced” breaks. </p>
<p>The problem was that this program was never supposed to be ‘paused’ for interruptions at these, or any other points. </p>
<p>As the program was slowly paced and required a great deal of concentration it took a long while after each commercial break to establish pace of the program again. On every occasion just when it seemed the pace was almost established, bang, suddenly another commercial break. Even the presentation to air looked abrupt with the unsightly, oversized font, lower screen program name graphic supered over the program picture which then suddenly cut to the full screen “CUTTING EDGE” high chrominance graphic (bearing no resemblance to the actual program style or the fonts used in it). This was followed a second later by a fast and abrupt fade to black and into the first commercial spot at the head of the break(s). Actually each break began with a promo but it was just as intrusive as an ad! </p>
<p>In my opinion all the breaks were suitably placed by SBS to totally destroy the timing and the dramatic real-life events. Hence all the breaks looked very unnatural. SBS paid no attention to the viewer experience or it seems the documentary makers method of telling a rather chilling story. </p>
<p>If SBS ‘force’ the ad breaks into the program, how can they then say that the ad breaks were ‘natural’? Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?</p>
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